Call with Deepak and 1 other-20260806_165457-Meeting Recording
6 August 2026, 11:24am
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621792274320Ashok   Pillanam started transcription
576072292608Rohit  Bhattad   0:04And this is the search that you can use the projects for search. Okay, now again, we can just remove this recently open. The idea is you'll manage both new projects and existing projects here, right? So for new projects, when you click on this, the flow will be like to create schedule from.Was like, uh, basically, you'll have a work data structure, and based on that, the data screen, we'll go to that, and for existing screens, uh, this, like, you'll kind of see a detail.Wherein you have, yeah, wherein you have different dashboards, and this is one existing project, OK?So you have, so there is an, so the PM enters or whatever, yeah, enters into a screen where he'll see a list of projects, yeah, correct, and he can search, yeah, and there's some sort of dashboard, the content, yes, yeah, then he can get some note. OK, now I don't want to get into notifications and all that, because...Notifications would be nice. Also, any notifications from Oracle update is where, you know, typically would there be any notifications for project managers? Then maybe that can come here. Project manager will update from here, right? And then it will go to, yeah, Oracle, but the feedback should also come here, yeah, so...Feedback me, Oracle, like, like, like, there should be some notifications or something, like, OK, there will be some, like, OK, contracts not updated, some kind of message, like, any message, the moment it will, but then what kind of data we are we need to fetch from Fusion like contracts is one thing, what else can be updated?Usually, the W.B.S. and all, that will be the best part of this new process, so W.B.S. resource also, they may change, for example, at home machine P. or Nadia is there, right? This is you, so they may change Nadia to someone else. That will happen here, sir. I know, so that will happen here, right? So, I think what she's saying to notification point of view.And you know, I don't know in Oracle what notifications are going to come. We in Deltek, we would have some notifications like, okay, we could say that, okay, your date is, you know, your one time notification rather than sending an e-mail. We would have notifications. I'm assuming I'm just very high level. That kind of alerts we can, we can, we can see, I mean, at the moment.Yeah, we can see what kind of values we can generate here. Generally, yeah, pull from pull from some can definitely be illustrated here. Now, in the Oracle, what kind of motivation mechanism you don't know? I don't know, we don't know yet, so it depends on that, it depends on that. So, whatever all I'm saying is whatever notifications for PMs.Should just come here, he chats results.It'd be a nice place on the right to say, like, you know, yeah, we can have an icon at the top, icon, yeah, exactly, and if they can, oh yeah, yeah, I have to update this, yes, this is pending, this is pending, yeah, I can.I like that.Now, idea is to search for existing projects, and use down new. I'm not sure how frequently new projects will come. Just kept this, uh, so as I wanted to discuss on what is the total number of projects, basically, and how useful we can make this screen, like you mentioned notifications, and maybe if some section is not needed.Yeah, yeah, we make it clean. I like to, so that's why this is an opportunity. Like, you can say, "Hey, I mean, you know, at the moment we don't need this, right? Correct, right, and let's make it very clean, so that's that he can design according, I can design according to the project. Yeah, so here maybe we can search like the type name, we can search or...Code also, yes, code also, we can touch that. See, you said this notifications you already said, see four steps pending, blah blah blah blah. No, that is for the new project set up as to what needs to be done, right? And then we can track it to the closure. Oh, this is pretty good, actually. I like the, no, the, no, I mean the content.But how it looks, we will make it user-friendly, yeah.And of course, these will have the names, no project name, client names, headers, we have headers, we have headers, right? Interesting, where are you getting this from? Ohh, this is also good. It depends, I mean, yeah, of course, it will be pushed from Oracle, pushed from Oracle, everything will be, they will pay, no, no, this thing we have to add.We have to have some logic as to how we are defining a project. Is it a risk or not? But I mean, yeah, it's risk management or risk registers. We are talking about Annapurni in order to choose that, right? OK, you know, I'll tell you why, but you will enter here, right? Enter, you can enter here, yeah, enter entry. What I was thinking is PMs, if...You know, by so PM is an important role, person who's accountable to, and in addition to our centre commercial managers and all that.they are accountable to update the planning and forecast and everything. We are responsible for the profit on the job. So now if we are giving them this access, then it should be a single point access. We can't ask them to go to Oracle as well and come here as well. Oracle or just on model, how big it is I do? No, there's nothing. So I think what...Maybe it's OK. I mean, then we can ask them to expose the risk API, yeah, and whatever the data entry we are doing here, we can push it there, the creation part of it, what are the masters, drop downs, they don't have that, they'll tomorrow call with or in the Twitter, maybe you can do that, yeah, I think I have my screen, just small things, that is fine, yeah, I or I can show, but then what I was trying to say is that...At risk one, right? Let's say I, I mean, but no, I know what you mean by address that's a list registers everything, correct? Yeah, you mean the project is at risk because the margin is dropping, whatever contract is, so we have to give the criteria correct in the reporting in Oracle, correct? Then it comes, then you pull that information, am I right?How so? I don't know. I'm reporting. That was my point that whatever the percentage you are showcasing about here, that actually the data you are pulling from Oracle finance wise, yes, but in a project finance is not only thing, right? If some something is some, it's not going on track as per plan, so yeah, time wise, but...That parameter, everything they will enter in Oracle. OK, parameter or say criteria, right? So, you are just reading this value from the Oracle here. So, in Oracle, maybe it's a at risk. You are in Oracle, will it be shown as at risk that project? We don't know at the moment, because they have a risk registers or something.Because if you judge the management tool, we should sure, I agree 100%. I like this, and whether or not gets it. So, my question also judge patients, and this is the fundamentals, right? So, if if Oracle cannot generate these other metres, then we can manage here to execute, manage like a reporting, this almost becomes like a reporting layer, yeah, yeah, then you slip exactly.Yeah, so it takes wherever it pulls me, just pull what is from stages, help like different criteria to search a project. That's good. OK, yeah, stages again, this again based on what this is based on our our stages. OK, what we decided is she might want to use this for planning also, she can enter a project here later on.She can enter a project there, which is not one, would be in a deal stage that we sync it here, she can do use it for financial, and also they will enter here only, or maybe project enter there only, and he's saying about the pre-sales or pre-base, whatever, which, if you will enter there, another the stages is like the pre-sales, that will be pre, yeah.So, it will not be this, so we will come, but this is the first, very good first, very good first, just initial draught. I know, I know, I'm very happy that I'm seeing this, to be honest. So now, of course, we will change, yeah, yeah, looks. See, the reason why I'm meeting is you're not available from next week, right? So, what more feedback I can get?Good. No, great. So now we will tell you maybe the next step. The idea is great and this is very nice. I mean, I think for a PM to look at and update. This is exactly the kind of interface that they will be happy with. Now the content we will tell. So what I can do is I can mark this up.You know, like a, yes, take a PDF and say, yes, so we can have a workshop around it. Sure, we can have workshop is best. Hmm, uh, we can capture markups and stuff, yeah, screen capture, you know, print it out, markup, and yeah, perfect. OK, this is the first page is fine. Yeah, now this, I've given this sort based on attention value.OK, a margin.This also can change, I mean, this was just.Oh, so you're sorting based on all of this, which is also quite interesting actually. Yeah.And then, about those values, your down screen is changing, is changing, yeah, okay, but it's almost like a report, you know, which is interesting, you know, which is this could be the, this is like the, this is like the overall all projects level, and now I'm frankly I'm not really sure how much of data electron fusion.Or, how I will get that data? I mean, whatever we are saying, we can ask them, "Hey, give me this data, or exposing it, how it is? They have individual APIs, no, they not have APIs for reports, so how we can manage it, we'll just cheque once, yeah, technically done for you, so again, idea brilliant, and almost the content also sort of makes sense, you know, so, but it's just...What exactly, like, maybe I want to see just the contract value, maybe I want to see the start and end dates. You could even, I don't know if you can do that. You can even have like, you know, select columns. I can have it. So we can have whatever columns you want. We can have that. Like maybe me as a project manager, I want this, this, this for, you know.The other person, maybe this is this, you know, the user, and then going to say, if it's not complicated, otherwise I'll tell you exactly, we'll try, that's fine, it's complicated, we'll try, yeah, so we can, OK, now we have two kinds of, basically, this will be the project taxonomy, you know, the whatever we see, and I will tell you which which which one, yes.So, done, I think, yeah, we can. I think we have a discipline wise project manager or one project manager can manage multiple, which is a very good question. In that, we can add column here according to, yeah, yeah, so one project we will only show the project manager, yeah, project project manager, yeah, if you actually ask that question, then you...And I don't want to make it complicated, but if you want to see that, then you could have a plus and then you can see the entire work breakdown structure, which I don't necessarily need. I don't need it. Then you see the disciplines and then the project management. No, no need. That's the roll to the detail screen. Yeah, no need. I agree. Then we have to think from performance perspective, so how much data we want to load, right?Yeah, no, I'm happy with this. I don't need that. I was just, we are just doing, yeah, it's like, and then this will be role access control. Let's say a project manager, he'll be able to see only his projects, exactly, and then maybe it has their subordinates, they'll be able to see all the projects, and then the relevant, it'll sum up, basically. Access control, I don't know how it's gonna work.It was from from Oracle. OK, it's the same control. Whoever is logged in here person will not give a different user ID password, so I will just we will add our e-mail only and they click on log in, so we call it single sign on, so the credentials rules that this application will read from Oracle.Because, at the end of the day, you are controlling right that Jalpesh has a, let's say, 5 project access or Jalpesh is project manager over 5 project, Thalha is for 15, so the moment Jalpesh will log in, Jalpesh is able to see only five, while Thalha can able to see 15.OK, perfect. Yeah, exactly. Moving on, so there are two types of projects: a new project and existing project. OK, new project is which for structure has been created in Fusion, yeah, and schedule has not been created. How do you differentiate that? Not here, yeah, and this is the stage also, yeah, not planned.Perfect. Set up pending basically. That's very good. Yeah, okay. And then new is here. We'll discuss new first, okay? Now when I click on this, this is where we, again, this four steps is written on my understanding. You can add, remove on what you do as part of planning. This we discussed during the other.our meeting, right? Very first thing you do is you create a schedule, right? Yes. So this is your work breakdown structure which comes from Fusion. Perfect, yeah. Now we said that we don't want to select deselect task, right? Like whatever is there created there, you carry forward it straight away. But then if you want to remove any task, I just gave this option, but this will be disabled like this.OK, wanted to take your feedback as to, yeah, so again, the work breakdown structure, we are saying that it won't be created in Fusion, so it can only pull that, so yeah.Everything has to be, right? Everything, then we just, you know, I'm just thinking, what's the advantage of? So, I think the what is OK, let me put another way. Let's say we have defined our standard WGS in Oracle, but do you think project manager should have a right or project manager can remove one particular line or something?No, because then what will happen? No, the removing is fine, removing is fine, but...I know, what is it? I feel there should be control. I don't mind, you know, it depends on how much confidence we have in there, you know, so, but that's why, that's why he's asking. He put it, he put it like cheque mark. If I can, let's say, bring a product manager, I don't want this concept, so I can cheque out. Yeah, but in your WBS is there. Yeah, then it will be a confusion. So, so, so I think everything is a disabled, I mean.Yeah, I said I discussed this already, so Jasir, I want to keep it on this option now, so maybe in future, you know, the idea would be to train them for such an extent that we completely decentralise it. Yeah, we give them the say they say we give them the option of say we create the WBS and this is how different users created infusion event, we don't know that.Now, this is how it looks like, huh? This is how it looks? OK, fine, perfect. Like, they just create parent task, child task, or they are dates also, like, how is it created in WBS, because for me, this this interface is 1000 times metric, so...What's your opinion on this?That.Whatever it is, it is from the fusion, no, but the only problem is every time, so...Fusion now we only have, sorry, there will be discussion. Fusion is controlled essentially by commercial and controls. Yeah, controls. Planning, planning data is also flowing. You're going to get more job. She will bring in a lot of things, literally redesigning, but only one thing. Excuse me, IP is going to be with.With her, yeah, no, you're talking about Excel browsing, she was like, "I'm all for you," so I think she's giving you more work, we have end up creating a totally new solution, no, no, no, no, are you, are you, are you, yeah, just a random, just normal, general, general is, yeah, I have no, he's okay, no, no, just generalised.So, so again, so we can we keep this as a little leave this part, we say access type, because we see how Oracle works and how the whole thing interacts. Yes, I don't know how Oracle works, but then have that call, so let's see more on my assumptions on, yeah, how it, yeah, because we need to see.Because if we keep the, because that that way we're not giving them, so if we keep this as an option and we disable it for some time, right, as time moves on, we can take it, we can enable it, true, you know, something like that, so we have the flexibility in that, and it should be disabled, true, so the control remains in Oracle, yeah, because if we give them the control of adding and stuff here, then the data, this should also flow back and change the.We keep it then, yeah, we can do that, but then, then the again, the control, the main thing is that we, as a strategy, we need to decide that up to which power, up to which level power we need to give to project managers. Yeah, so I'm very clear right now that we shouldn't give them the, then, then it should be disabled.But, but I know tomorrow is right, tomorrow I'm not there, somebody else wants to do it, yeah, then we can do this C.R. as well, we can change, no, we can change it, yeah, yeah, it's just that the two-way sync we need to, but how frequently project gets created, like, every.It's just, yeah, it gets changed a lot, and you know, this is a first time setup, right? After creating, you can add the, how many times you are changing the, not a lot, no, it should be set at the first time, and then, correct, it should not add a moving task, sometimes, yeah, there is an addition, that's what I'm saying, like, so we are setting up the phone for the first time.That edit thing, adding more tasks, you can create once or later probably gets created. Yeah. Right? Yeah. So this, we are doing this for the first time basically. Yeah. Okay, now we have imported WBS from Fusion. Next to this, we set dates. Okay. Now what I've given here is like a random duration or number of days each.Discipline might have, right? You call this discipline and the stage, correct? We call it, yeah, milestone and then activity, or so it is stage and then discipline, stage and then discipline. I'm sorry, right? Yeah, so you give it number of days, yeah, and then automatically, so what you're just doing a dummy thing, right? Because you don't even...Yeah, Danny, OK, OK, so, so now let's say I think this is how we want, right? The key from seventy-seven a person will enter 70 days something, right? I'm sorry, but again, option like from weeks to days to months, the option of, yeah, OK, now I have given weeks, but yeah, so you want to enter in days and months, it like, it like, see, for example, let's say some projects are like...It has like a concept is in 10 or 20 days and it's like sometimes it's based on me also because here is where we we may need integration with David's basics thingy with through Oracle, right? I mean, I mean saying that not not from here, but from Oracle.When you create WPS and Oracle, there's no number of days, weeks you under that.The end of date, I think, start date and start date, project end date is fine, but at the last, the WBS, they do enter the, yeah, they're actually incinerating with the rolled up, the not 100%, Thalha, some projects will be some, but it's a two-way thing, so we have an option, what the specification was that we have a.Option to use, because what if it's wrong? The PMs will don't need to use that, then, in that case, so here there should be an option where we pull that, no, this data will be pulled, whatever is preloaded, it's a pull date only, you make a change automatically, so we should have an option, we do that.It cheques, then I don't know how that's a solution, so we need, see, by default, generally, how such integration, whatever is the data is there, we pull it to edit it, you don't know, but in this case, in this case, yes, but the P6 is getting integrated with Fusion, so the...The checking that you wanted, right? That control of whether that the data that is getting pulled is the right data or not. It should be here, not Oracle. Yeah. The control should be here for the day. Yeah, so how it will work is it will get pulled into Oracle. From Oracle, it will come here. Here you integrate it, then it goes back to Oracle. See, wherever it comes, that's fine, right?But my my point is that the PM has to, because what happens is programmes keep changing. So every month they change. I don't, as a project manager, I don't want it to automatically change without my permission. No, yeah, that is fine. So that's why the... It's not first time thing when you're setting up a project. Okay, we will talk about that.Edit project, so assume that being a project manager, this is just the first time. I think, let's assume, let's assume like this way that this seventy-fourteen-sixty, I mean, whatever the start and end date which is coming discipline-wise or stage-wise, which is coming from Oracle. Let's assume like this way that in Oracle somebody has created the WBS, it has come up, and it is coming up now, as a project manager, I do have a right, I can change it here.The moment I will change it, it will push back to Oracle, and then the moment it will push back to Oracle, it will push back to P6 also, yeah, and then that's up to, and for David, it will just be a notification, it's a notification that is updated, so this now here, I think what the input which Thalha has given, yeah, that they need, huh, yes, otherwise you put only week, yeah.They, they need a time scale, if there is a time scale, because for us, your time scale is 3 years. Actually, what happens is, like, for for other projects, we have supervision boilers, it goes like a two years or three years, so we just say, so this bunch of two years, it will be yours. So, in this, if you can see Delta functionality.No, no, yeah, in that, so Deltek has all that functionality, right? Yeah, so weeks, days, and years, and months, and quarters, and OK, because it can be any number of days, right? So, the contract may be very specific that it ends on a Monday or a Tuesday, whatever. I think I have that in the I did think, just make, yeah, just, and the other question is, sometimes I could have a different date here, so...Theoretically, if you can expand it, yeah, so I could change, so this is finish to start, right? Start to finish, yeah, finish to start, yeah, so this I'm doing on the, OK, let me, so even the links, theoretically, you should be able to change it, right? I could make it start to start, I could make it finish to start, you can change it, you can change it, you want that also, yeah, I'll tell you how I did it, so just copy the delta functionality, yes, yes, yes.This one, OK, that sounds good enough, that that works, so just copy that, yeah, yeah, I put it here, so this is the detailed view screen in this schedule, ohh nice, but this is basically wherein let's say you this needs to start before this one, right? So, you just put it the linkage this thing, yeah, you may have rebuild key hold on.Okay.Nice, very good. No, this is the actual, you know, we have Microsoft Planner. I don't go to, I know, yeah, I kind of, but the Microsoft Planner also also has that thing right where you go and then you link on this note, this is like a.The plugin, yeah, but you have some paid plugins, will do more than $1000 to manage this, the gantt chat and all that, but I don't feel, I mean, this is, but can you do that thing of just, you know, different, OK, that's fine.That's true, drag and drop. What you're saying is drag and drop. Yeah, sometimes you just take your cursor and link, right? I'm not asking, I'm just, so you are saying that you will not change the date, but Annapurni, this is for my understanding purpose, you are saying that a person will not change the date, but they will play with this Gantt chart.That's what you're trying to say, yeah, and here they want to link it to here, like that. OK, so automatically the date will be also, always there's an estimated start, estimated finish, actual start, actual finish, yeah, and that was is there a baseline start, baseline finish also? Yeah, yes, so all of that is checked from Deepak. OK, just make sure you're fully.Taking all those functionalities, I have it in the one minute, so here I had this timeline, as you mentioned, right, week, months, quarters, but for filling also we need correct, yeah, OK, fine, filling that, and estimated one minute, so this is the point, and then it should say that no, it should give a.We should definitely enter all predecessors and successors. It should not let us not enter because what will happen there? Oh, is that it? I would like that to happen because otherwise your programme will not move with, right? I mean, if something there's a break between them, there is no impact. Impact, they're not really impact. Somebody may.Somebody may change this, it may not impact something else, and it will be good to say that all. So, what are the dates? This is an actual plan start plan start date, but there's an actual date and there is a baseline also baseline date. I don't know how you're gonna integrate it with.So, yeah, yeah, exactly. Now, here we need to understand Oracle, correct, because what Oracle is giving you a date that you are gonna populate here, right? This is from the schedule which they prepare. They are preparing a schedule. I don't know if schedule thing is there in Oracle or not. I mean, whatever we are pushing, we need to push this data back to Oracle. So, Oracle also has to have all these three dates, yeah, actual date, plan, plan.It is, if you can cheque with them, I know for a fact that they have scheduled an actual, but these are them, baseline should be there, baseline they are keeping it only for, I think the reporting where you take a snapshot, keep it right, so that is one thing, see that they should be, even if it's there as a snapshot, it should appear to them.So it can then find any interface like that. If you could just say this at a very high level, they know that, you know, where is the delay? There is a delay, there is, you know, the data, so we can give those KPIs here as well on top, as I just said, but main main functionality, yes, interface with Oracle, I don't know, so that's something we can.And delta functionalities in terms of, yeah, dates and just see how the entry is, because and how the connexion is, but it looks good, yeah, and that's what I, I just, I handled all this in the details, yeah, and I just wanted to show this, it looks user-friendly is what I'm saying, it's fine, yeah, and this, the drag-drop thing.I don't know, I'll have to cheque. They don't want, no, that's that's maybe our question. I will just see, and we'll cheque with Fusion also if we can capture all the, because my question now, the follow up question to that, sorry, just, we'll just finish it off now, when you're entering it for the first time, schedule, you enter all three dates, or like actual, obviously, you're not baseline, actually, see, when the initial of the project, we always enter what is the baseline start and baseline.And, and what is the estimated start on this? You're starting with estimated, yeah? So, right now, estimated, and you're starting with estimated, and then baseline it, you right? Just correct me, yes, this is the first, this is first time he's creating the project, right? So, let's assume that's the case.So he's pulling the data from Oracle. I don't know how the predecessors and all will work, how the data interface is there. Yeah, that's a question Mark I have. If they have, otherwise we can do it here and then it could be anyway pushed back, right? Yeah, so that's a question, yeah. And how that interacts with Primaware, because then the logic will change.Yeah, so that's why the beauty of integration will come on the handshake, yeah, because the here I think whatever they will push back to Oracle, each code is is the way I mean a common terminology to understand or do the linking, yeah, so yeah, but then if they...Yeah, so that's one thing. What I don't know how to that, so that, but having to answer your question, you're starting off with a blank sheet of paper or with Oracle, you see, you come here, you do all of this, right? No, but then when you are entering dates here, you'll enter baseline date only or baseline date and no, no, no, I'll come to the baseline in a minute. They are saying they will they will enter estimate date at the moment. No, you start, yeah, you call it, let's call it.Estimated for OK, OK, because you're not baseline, baseline means baseline something is that's cast and stone, OK, so there, if you again, if you look at Deltec, we'll see that save baseline or publish, OK, OK, OK, the save baseline function, so something like that has to happen, so you click that and that becomes the baseline.Okay, so once you click that, only then it becomes a baseline, then that gets saved as a baseline. You with me? Yeah, so there is a, there is an action there, then it becomes a baseline. So the baseline creation is here.Yes, a programme schedule, because I can't see that Oracle.Understood. So now during the project creation only baselining will happen. So once post you have created the initial schedule.So now we are getting initial schedule. You have put the estimated dates. I can read baseline also the schedule. OK, PM. PM can baseline it as many times as he wants, right?My issue here, the, but then you said, right, it's casted on a wrong, no, no, that is up to the come on that much, so we need to.Programme is then what I'm casting to, what I'm fixing is the control on the work breakdowns, the activities and the codes. So, whether that is data, change the baseline days multiple times. They can. Now, whether we need a control on that, whether it, the only thing now will happen is.So, you'll have multiple big slides.Right, so, as per the last, what the API wants, I don't think they've done anything for baselining it. You know, they didn't give you any APIs for baselining, if I'm right. I'm not, I'm checking. So, we have to cheque that, so let's...But again, the baseline is another function, but I don't know how we want to integrate, but...But Thalha, or should we baseline it all together once the cost, or should we baseline the schedule 1st and then we baseline? I mean, same, same, yeah, at the same time, so then we save baseline of it, everything gets saved together as a baseline, and then, in case of a baseline, there is a workflow of approval, if you see not a good.They have designed a workflow. In that case, the whole thing goes as an approval workflow, one baseline cost, schedule, and...Yeah, whatever that's. So the thing is, even if we do get the API for baselining, it should be that, you know, every time I change the baseline, I'm doing it, might be that's kind of draught one. It shouldn't start pushing in on the workflow. There should be somewhere where I've said, yes, to publish. Okay, so I come here, I'm doing this, I'm calling it as a.baseline alpha, I work on that same baseline alpha with the cost and the other things coming in, and then I publish, then it reversible. So that is something that we have to be conscious of, and that's something tomorrow when we are meeting them, let's pass them a whole baseline creation and all that.Oh, understood.So, new project comes in into a system, you start, you put an estimated started ended, once you save, OK. Now, baseline happens after you put the estimated started ended, or you put it together.There's an estimated strategy, yes, so let's not, let's consider baseline as after we finish everything, all of that, OK? So, at this point, they should not be taken, I don't know, in your technical terms, can you save this baseline or you say...You can say, yes, the part that the what is asking is a draught baseline before I publish it, just publish it. It doesn't have to be baseline every time, so you publish it, then it is the current programme, right? Estimated start and estimated finish, it's saved, press done, press everything is done, then once the baseline is done, everything is done, then we update the actual dates in action.No, so far as again, I'll have to see Deltek on this time, but that two dates estimated start date, baseline start date, and actual dates, and actual dates, so when you create it in Deltek, the schedule, you give both dates estimated and baseline date, or just when you publish, it gets baseline, no, just when we click publish, then estimated start dates and end dates, it gets, in fact, for that's what it will be different from Deltek.Because it is say baseline, there is no control. OK, in this, if we're having a control, if you've seen the document, we said the baseline should have some control, so maybe at least I, so this is submit baseline for approval, and it with the whole, then everything will go.It will be, it will be the programme and it will be the cost of the company for Google, and then I review it and I confirm. OK, it may even go to say finance or credit for Google, not Mohammed, but at least internally there is a control that, look, yes, so you have.So, I'm okay with the 10% margin, but I know I'll challenge it as I know you need to make 12% margin. So, what I'm trying to say is that schedule is what right now it's estimated start, estimated finish, that I will use, I will save it and publish it every time, maybe, or whatever you call it, all the controls you can read from Deltech.Okay, but the baseline will be a formal submission. Submit baseline for approval. Yeah. Okay, before that, the PMC should be able to review it once on the screen, right? Oh, this is how it will look. Yeah. Okay, and then submit. Okay. Okay, to submit, submit. Okay, he can put some notes and submit it. So come as a form.For a preview, yeah, so then it will go through like an omni approval and click compute. We will have to describe, as for the DOA, we will say this has to be approved. This is the one that we are actually planning to do with an Oracle right baseline workflow. So then, because when you're talking, I'm just trying to say one is when you say review.Oracle, there is nothing called as a review. It is submit for approval. It goes for that same, no, no, no, no, no, just hear me out.So, when the PM is actually doing a baseline, where he's coming back and he's saying with the estimate and all of that, he suffers it from here. Back end, what happens behind the screen is this goes to Oracle, triggers that workflow.It will go back all the way, you know, as per the DOA, when it comes first to you, you can even reject it. It doesn't go to anyone else.Then you can rework on that, resubmit it, and then it goes. But if you are, that is the normal way so far where we have been saying that this, you know, the web app doesn't do a lot of other things. It's more of a wrap.Now, if we step out of that, you know, this thing and say, come back, hey, I want to have a mini review here, right, happening, then we'll have to incorporate that. And so why I'm trying to explicitly say is, as far as the this thing, web app, we never.Looked into a workflow approval or something within this system, so let, if that is the expectation, let's be clear, saying that that's my expectation that happens here. Look, I don't want the technicalities behind the scene that you have to figure out to Gautham. No, no, you want an approval pushing for approval should be here. Yeah, pushing for approval reviewing and all will happen in Oracle.Fine, yeah, like I'm telling you, for me, it doesn't matter whether it's here, there, anywhere. For me, I'm looking at the interface and I'm saying push it for approval, yes, yes, that'll happen, that you work out how you want, that'll happen, yeah, the pushing happens from, yeah, that's it, the approval and all by finance and all happens in Oracle, right, totally fine. OK, first thing now, maybe what we'll just continue.Ohh, I understood. Good. Thank you. Let's go. Yeah, OK. What we have set up estimated minutes here. OK, now and then you'll click on review now.What did that review? Okay, sorry, I lost it. Let me start from the beginning again.So, we were setting up a new project, right? I just click on new project, create schedule, OK?First, WBS set dates. OK, so you came to the second step, you're setting up sequence and duration. Perfect, yeah. Question, just one thing, if you go back to the...No, no, I understand. Third take, yeah, take three, take three.Some dates. OK, yeah.This is just about creating a schedule and nothing else. No resourcing and all will be handled later on on the cost side.First, a set if a schedule gets created, then we just mark it, or if you want to add resources also as part of this, we can add that screen as well.It's about importing a new project into this system. Okay, just stay there. One more thing I want to mention. So if I change this, this will change, yeah? Yeah, yeah, yes. Okay, so and I could even have a link here. So this can be a little later as well, right?This can move, yeah?So, my first, if I first type this, then all of this will be the same, correct? Yes, okay, so that saves time, but I can have a choice that I move this like this, yeah, I can move this and then this can update. Ohh, yeah, obviously, yeah, the first you don't have to enter the concept dates that is changed automatically, but is it also an option that I, okay, and is it a copy paste? I mean, any other functionality, Thalha?The one with any other functionality you want very quickly, it makes it easy for you, you know, so you cannot change these dates, you can only change these dates. That's what I am assuming, because it'll all, right, exactly, which makes sense, but I'm thinking you can also change that, and then this changes to one, but I know that's a bit too much.Right, how does it work in like, how do you divide those dates? If you can give me a logic, actually, what happens is, like, so let's say like concept is a is a rolled up, yeah, rolled up W.B.S. So, what happens is if I change the parent one, the child, this which are concept design development.Which is 90% of the time or 80% of the time? No, but how do you divide? Let's say concept is 4 weeks or 8 weeks. You equally divide the days? Could be equally, you know, because the logic is that under this you have disciplines. Correct. Every discipline, so they can be the same or they can be different. OK, like how you have shown.I think if you put it, you put parent numbers, everything is the same. The child copies the parent numbers. Actually, it gives the option. So you're saying that, are you want to change the child dates or not? It gives an option. So what happens is if you want to change the child, let's say like on the top most level.If it is a project, okay, if it is on a project level, if I'm changing the dates, it'll last, or you want to change the on all the parent or child dates, so then if you say no, then automatically it doesn't change this changes. If you say yes, then it changes everything. How would divides days in child or everything is the same?Yes, OK. Well, you can have that, so, but again, you have to change dates individually at a wait, no, no, actually, so that is what actually, so first, actually, what I see is you set a project on a like a time scale, OK? In the in the project, changing the dates for the the child task, everything.It depends on our experience, like if you want to change, increase the duration, or reduce the duration, but we want to see as a as a project, we want to see this much as a project, my project duration, so it may this is the time then, so I first I change it on the project level, then I go and cheque.Okay, child level, okay, this is my project time and this much only I have the time. So I can change on any of the child levels and so that it can match to my project level. Now then here we have to consider one thing, project started and did, dead loop, PS and tasks are coming from Fusion. Okay, so if you put putting, I don't know if there is a dependent task logic in Fusion.If you are dividing all the, keeping all the dates same for all the subtasks, then basically everything will overlap, right? It can overlap also. You see that the cheque delta functionality, right? You will, right? Yeah, everything is OK. Just make sure that we can set up a call for 30 minutes, either next week, yeah, when we understand, yeah, just to make sure all those functionality are.Okay, fine. Next, if you want to add resource planning also here, we can do it as part of initial setup. What I thought is we'll just create schedule 1st and then go to the resource planning as part of next step. So these are the onboarding tasks for a project that we are doing.Yes, OK. Importing the. I like this. I like this. Yeah, this is simple and easy to understand that it's.Correct. Ohh wow, what is this?Every task tasks after like from the contrast, I'm fetching this interesting fits inside the contract end. Wow, I like that actually.What do you think?What are these, but why are you? Yeah, so that's ********, right? Like, basically, if you want to review something, right, like a golden rule that every project schedule should have this or follow. No, I like that, that's what I'm saying. I like that idea, but is it automatically doing it? AI or whatever it is? You get me rules, we can, or if you want AI to do it.I don't know, like, yeah, whatever, so something some rules, if you want the schedule to follow, and then it can go red or correct, yes, yes.Nice.But I don't understand, so, but this you have to review one by one, OK? To see if that logic, like every task starts after three, may or may not be true, because, but you mentioned right, every task needs to have a predecessor at stage level, yes, at stage level, so this will, yeah, at this level, not at the next level.No, no, I mean, once concept has subtasks, that is that, basically, yeah.This applies at level one or whatever you call it, level 2 or whatever, right? If there are disciplines, okay? So this after, because disciplines can be start to start also. So in that case, after doesn't apply. So with this, yeah, maybe, yeah.Yeah, set most of the cases, 80, 90% of the cases, this is true. Stages are always sequential.And I think in our WBS structure, Thalha, it's one after the other, yeah, yeah, usually what you see, so that is true. This is first stage, stage discipline.Again, don't go by the wording, and because we, ohh yeah, I think I'm having so much detail. Yeah, it's just a concept. What I'm trying to show here is, if you want to do any validations at a schedule level, based on your business rules, good, we can implement it. What is being followed, what is not being followed, like...Let's say concept needs to be only for two to three weeks max. Actually you're spot on because what I want to cheque is this. Correct. Inside the contract date, start and end date. So let's say for example concept based on a let's say it's a million dirhams product, just like this thing, right? And schedule needs to be on only for three months or four months, whether somebody has given it for six months.We can highlight it out, like, like, basically such kinds of rules were in, we will have to, yeah, you will have to cheque the event ID of, and how you intersect with Oracle, yeah, on where are the contact dates, are there contact dates in Oracle or not? That should be, yeah, so, on that dates, contact value.Yeah, contract is there, specifically dates. I don't know how it is there or not. It's not that we can fetch it via OCR already. That's possible. OK, from the actual contract itself. Ohh, wow, that'll be brilliant. You can have the contracts and every everything. It'll be, you can save contracts. No, definitely we can do it.If you get the actual contract file, yeah, you think if it's upload contract, there should be another thing in Oracle, we have to have upload contract, which it either in Oracle contract project is linked to a contract, no? What happens is people don't upload contracts, so yeah, yeah, this all is dependent on contract values only, the reporting and all that.Yeah, loading contract document is documenting values are there, but not a document, so for me to go to a project and see now I have to open the contract from the folder. Okay, okay, great. Okay, this is a concept on number of validation rules, and I like the fact that you have done.So for me, the way the interface is, this is the steps one, two, three, 4. Correct. That you're going and setting up. No, I've added only schedule here. If you want resource management also as part of this process. Of course, the whole point of this is that... No, actually, he has kept a schedule as a separate transfer. See, the first most important thing is you create a schedule, right? Yeah.Then your project gets imported into this system. Later on, you just go into the edit view, which I will say, yeah, yeah, there you have the resource, yeah. So, here you've kept schedule a separate page, then you will say next go to resource. I'll just create schedule. What is your, what do you, what is your recommendation? You keep the, you know, the problem we are facing. So, what do you, what's the recommendation? So, I wanted to ask this question as to who?Other, just the PM, create a schedule and resourcing together, or first it creates a schedule, first it creates a schedule, right? Because it is more with the schedule, correct? So, if you create a schedule, the project comes into the system, at least you'll have a bigger baseline of the this thing, and then maybe you can like save of save as draught.Kind of a feature running, and tomorrow we can come in and add resources, because if he has to do it once together, right, the sourcing might take a lot of time. Schedule is just is just evaluating at a high level and is creating, right? I don't know, I mean, how it happens, how much time schedule creation takes, and how much time resource mapping takes.Yeah, if he has to do the entire stretch end to end in one go, then so my my suggestion is like, basically, like, if he if he sets the schedule, actually, okay, if he sets a schedule, my maybe my thinking like he can just download the schedule, okay?With the task and everything, and then cheque everything, and then he can just fill it in the Excel sheet, and he can just do a for resources, yeah, resources.Then, resource, OK, for generic fusion roles, yeah, we discuss, so we'll go to that screen once, so actually, so once the schedule is set for you, so once the schedule is set, so we can just plan the resources, and then it's just...OK, the schedule view, and this is the resource plan. OK.Now, schedule view, one thing which I wanted to show is person complete also. You had one screen, right, where you can update person completion. And then the, so I put it here only just so as it's easier for you to save. For dates, whatever are in the past, you cannot edit it.Ohh, sorry.I had a screen to edit actual schedule, one minute actual date.In.Okay, yeah, this one, this was a, yeah, sorry, in schedule you don't fill hours, correct? This is where you fill hours, no? Yes. Oh, sorry, yeah, okay. So as part of schedule, you just fill the percent completion, right?Anything else is updated and the actual dates correct on a real time basis.This is the actual dates. Baseline dates will save somewhere. This is the actual dates which you will edited. Anything else you edit? No.So, there are two views here, Annapurni, and just to repeat again, you have created a schedule, OK? Ohh, I'm very happy that the percentage complete is setting it.But this is not talk, so there are different presentation. What I think a percentage something that we're talking about, no? It can be here, what do you think? Oh, no contract summary here, we are, we are a bit, there are some, we're talking about, this is actually a physical person complete, this is physical person complete, which is manual in this, right?Hello, manual, manual talk. OK, so of now we discussed that they are manually entering the physical person's update. Yeah, I wonder how Aryan.Sure, Pathan.Image processing and all that, so when actual is when...OK, so this is at a period level. OK, now you, I don't know how you fill it monthly, weekly, interesting.Physical progress, where you just see the bars on the right, and this is basically OK. Previous month, no, this is timeline. I mean, that's just, just you just see the, that's yeah, the project, the schedule based comment. So, these comments are saved month by month.Interesting.No, no, we can change it. So, ideally, what I thought is physical person completion, you'll save it for some time frame, right? No, good. So, that's why you have to, yes, I mean, I'm happy to see previous, very previous versus current, yeah. I mean, it's always something, you know, we always say, okay, fine, last time, take that, it has to be more than that. It has to be more than that, yeah.So, this will be greyed out, and then you just to see the logic behind the.If I'm putting 50%, so those logics you cheque, if I'm putting 50% progress, and this I have put zero as actual start, I mean I've not put an actual start date, then the system should, yeah, we can cheque, we can have that.He.Are we forced to put actuals in, like, no, right, which is in there?Or if he's putting 50% something in the actual, or even the baseline data also have not yet started, for example, or the resource have not been assigned, you can link like that also, but just like not that named, like a generic resource, a named resource has to be assigned for something to be physically progressed, right?Those validations you can have.So, these were two screens I wanted to discuss. Again, yeah, this is a date where you can edit the actual date. This is a predecessor task, percent completion, overall, whatever the latest thing can come up here. Yeah, so those are edit view of that.Yeah.OK, if you want to highlight something, like some error or something, this, this is, yeah, yeah, perfect, yeah, yeah, what else is a highlighted, yeah, and then you can just philtre this one, this is the, and like it can also, this is the summary here.So can I go to the left side where I know where exactly I am? Because that's my only, okay, it is in the schedule still. But can you, you know, you had a nice navigation pane here, which are like one, two, three.That was for the the first time set up, like you when you're importing a this thing, we want we can have it here. Yeah, I'm just trying to understand.Oh, so now you are in the updating mode. Yeah, we are in the updating mode. So updating mode will be scheduling, right? You'll have to see, you'll be able to see, you'll be able to open the baseline, you'll be able to see the baseline start finish, okay? Or CS, you should be able to start. Now, my only question is actual start finish. Do you need to or do you not? I don't know.I know the answer, we really need it.Because.It's always nice, and this is an opportunity for us to have everything in one place, which means the actual start should, actual start should go, yeah, same thing, actual start should be there, yeah, so you should be able to say actual start is there.All these days, you should have actions ideally. When do you update actual? Same time? We don't right now, in Deltec, we don't. We just have like an indicative duration which has been updated, but since this integrated time, it should be an actual, there should be an actual start, which will give us more information, which will give us better schedule information.which we are lacking and I feel that's something that we can capitalise on. That's how you can get proper SPI and CPI, all the performance indicators in one place.So action, I can use your card.So, how do we, so, and on a real-time basis, actually will only be a refresh, or baseline will also be added? No, no, baseline is, baseline is, see, my baseline, whether my actual starts during the baseline or not, doesn't matter. This is when I promised I would start. Okay. In reality, I started some other time.Okay, and actuals are always estimated will become an actual correct, Thalha? I don't know how works, yeah, but or project works or whatever, but actual estimated is written by the actual dates.So, if in the estimated itself, you put actual, then fine. Yeah, no, cannot three different dates captured here, but in the future, you want to, you need to have an audit already, yeah, you want to have an audit lag as to when was the estimated, when was the actual plan, yeah, when will they change, yeah, and every change will be audited, right?We'll have a history which can show some history somewhere, like timeline. Now, now I can't go into, now it becomes difficult for me because now I have to design the entire schedule interface which is which is like a primer or a Microsoft which I can't. The question is the audit, let me recheck whether they also Oracle also make it an audit or not. I think there's one need here.If there it is maintained, right, if it's just a historic one, we can take it as a report from there. Everyone, we can hold it on. Oracle, what are the columns? Actually, there is estimated, there is the actual base. OK, three sets. Now estimated is usually overridden by the actual. So my estimated start date is.In Jack, when I put 11th Jan, the 11th Jan replaces this number. I think that's how schedules work. I don't know if you worked on project or Tanner, have you? Yeah, yeah. So, what happens? No, the one we remember them by the actual, no, that's what I remember. No, no, actually what happens is in primor, what we do is we first...Go and save it as a baseline, and then that baseline is saved somewhere, and then what happens is then we take another copy of the project, and then we update the actuals and baseline is no baseline to the project, so we keep it that dates as greyed out.An actual suite just update all in the estimated. What I'm saying is, that's fine. Based saying, now estimated start date, end date, whatever, actual start date, end date, this is actually, but these are fully different. No, no, I know they are different, so that's what the, you know, how, whether it's so that is exactly how a schedule performs, the batch restoration from David.Yeah, that comes in. Well, that's also how your PPM also. Yeah, that's fine. What is that? Your estimate and your actual. So I could have said the estimate start is 10th of January, but my actual start date will be 15th of January. These 2 are visible, but the estimated once you have started to enter the actual.Estimates are all greyed up. Exactly, that's my point. So, okay, so same logic, and just make sure it talks to you, yeah, and they think features are going up, so that's it. I think where Thalha was coming was, when you're talking about baselining, there can be multiple baselines. Even Primavera lets you do. It should, and even Oracle holds. I saw the FQD documents.So when you come here and you're asking baseline, my only challenge that I can foresee for him is which baseline to do. Well, you can click, no, you have so many philtres, you can select which version, which baseline to do. So that will be the only thing where then all the available baselines for that project should come. Exactly.Okay, one was gonna multiple baseline. Yes, because typically what happens is I can have a baseline for, you know, where you have multiple sections, right? I can have one, I put the baseline for all, then I'm just taking one and I'm just taking baselining it for this section concept. I can do a lot of baseline.Yeah, Oracle lets you do that. Primavera lets you do that. Okay. Even your MVP lets you do a baseline, but the problem comes in MVP is that's why you can have only one baseline. Okay, okay. But Primavera lets you have multiple baselines. Okay.Okay.So, here then, what I think is this baseline logic, and then the estimated versus the actual date logic is missing. Anything else, Thalha, in this screen? No, no, no, we can move on to the main, yeah, yeah, thank you. I have a person completion we've added here. OK, day noise, I'll just cheque out, and then, yeah, but comments are clear to you, right?Cheque that features of functionalities, yeah, and settings of course interfacing with our interface, interface. How this appears, of course, we can, the detail of it, we will, but it's fine, it's working, so we can, the detail of it, once I add the estimated data, although I don't know how those, then we'll have to see how, but as a how to make it like a little user.Yeah, user-friendly, we can just have a tab here which can close this out and then open it, and then you should be able to see it in weeks, months, which you have already integrated. Yeah, yes, any comment from your side, any person completed or not, you're finding?Yes, and it is the previous, and if something is missing somewhere, it should highlight and alerts should come. That will likely cut input from you, yeah, yeah, this is what the colour coding I put, but then if something is actual started made and actual data is there, then it actually it has to have a person complete.And I don't know that logic and fusion, and I don't.Fusion I lost, so, and tomorrow, anyway, he's sitting later, yeah, so far he's been looking at the functionality perspective, QI, everything right now.how much of it is coming back into, because you can enter multiple things here, right? Let's say you can even enter a comment here, but will it go get stored into Oracle? So those are things that he has to cheque. And then the, like what he was saying, the look and feel might slightly change even.Right now, he's trying to bring in the baseline dropdown, and we haven't come to the, yeah, agreed, but we haven't come to the main thing, which is resource, no, this is the, yeah, schedule we have discussed, I mean, but when you go back, OK, and another thing is water contents cotton of what exactly, and we wanna see that KPIs, we will.Informing, yeah, so that's the dashboarding part, yeah, yeah, you have that, so this is not this is a concept thing, right? So, exact, I can tell you, no, no, no, exactly, yeah, that is OK, yes, yes, no, no, and a project level also, I have something created for you, OK, that was at the overall, I can give you a dashboard, actually.This is not, you know, the one that we are okay, for three months we given that, given that difference, let him at least have a look at it. No, no, please, please, I need to, I can pass on Gautham, everything that we passed on, let's pass on to them. We have already issued everything, too. Can you please pass on everything to them?Well, I would let me cheque everything on the entire reporting, everything.And even I don't have access to that report in Google, so that's a Power BI, right? I don't have access to that one that, Panu's the one that downloaded it and given it as a PDF, everything, but I don't have access to the Power BI one, the Power BI, even the PDF reports and everything.Can we give everything so that I don't have an issue one by one?Will you do that? Yeah, she's uploaded on a SharePoint site, yeah.No, no, it's like a resource plan person will come back to the dashboard when you open the dash. OK, yeah, sure, let's close that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm just trying to, that's the main one, that's the main one, right? Yeah, dashboard to anything that come right, so he'll leave dashboard, yeah, but then is that what whole data we are getting in the stack cheque?Now I have an input from Excel which we discussed the other day. Now, how you'll put in the names and how we will link it? Not sure. HR. Okay. That is where Mr. Gautham will explain that everything is rebuilt, so nothing has to be connected. Correct. Yeah.It's just a selection, and again, here I don't mind. How do you find the delta interface for selecting resources? No, just cheque what I what I have here. So, let's say I have to assign a resource here, right? Yeah, just say assign resource. I have this. No, this is where you need.to cheque Deltech, at least you need to see, you know, our enterprise structure, which is by organisation and by this, or at least I need to enter the discipline. Because then it, because I have 1500 people, correct? So interface has to be based on that. So I put this, at least I should say architecture, it will only pull in the architects.It's an empty. OK, fine.because I won't know the names of everyone and then there are generic resources. So that interface will have to. Understood. Any comments on the delta functionality? Should I just say just look at the delta functionality?Thalha.EW.Like, well, in this resource planning, I think the actual plan also should be interesting.Just take.Particular call.Yeah.What do you see?Let me also call quickly, Ashok.Sorry, what are we discussing?The selection of resource talk.So, Rohit, also the plan which are showing from August, right? So, is there any way to just retain the?Usually, we can retain the plan, right?The old plan.For the previous months, and not, yeah, there's a time sheet, there's a time sheet, basically, no, no, this is what you have kept it as an actual, no, that August 2026 to this thing, just kept plan, yes, OK, so we have actually like, like actuals and plan classes, actual correct that.So.I think, so your actual will actually come from your entry, yes, right? So, this is going to be where you are planning, yes. So, in this project, you had a planned resource, you'll have a planned line, then you'll have an actual line, so that was another, I just wanted to show you those.Those colour labels are there, right? Yeah, so if you see red over plan by more than 10%, do you want to see the actual planned hours? Yes, oh, that is also important, yeah, but what for previous months, how does it matter? No, actually, for us, it's like currently that that is a debate going on, like we need to see the...What is a previously planned and what is the actual? So that's where I tried and showed with the colour this thing, right? But okay, you can show, but the screen might be from previous months. Maybe a report you can have on this screen you need. Sorry, I lost you a little bit. So what Thalha was saying is there are two hours, right?Planned versus actual, yeah, so if you you see till July, the hours are greyed out, like you cannot really fill, those are the actual hours till July 26th, yeah, if you see the heading, yeah, yeah, from August, it's the OK plan, what are you asking for? So, I want to see like actuals and plan also for the previous months, if if this, yes, yes, yes, if there is a if there is a possibility, that is useful.What I have handled that is that you have these three colours, right? Red, I'm gonna and green. No, no, we we compare. We say you, you promised I'll just take this one because, yeah, we'll add it there, no problem. Yeah, for sure. Maybe you'll plan slash, yeah, no, no plan. You can just create another below line.That's OK, no, it's OK, because the sorry for the benchmarking is to see the thing from where he's coming in, yes, I'm doing it to the source, right? I click at colour, and I it will give me one row which is all the planned hours, the other row which is the actual asking, and then we can just highlight like that colour.But colour coding is useful, or is it directly? No, you can do it, you can keep it as your choice, you can keep it just, yeah, your choice, your choice, keep the colour, no, by colour coding, let's say you select that colour, right? You, we can show that rows, like, yeah, you can write, you, you were more intuitive, so we can tell.Where you click, I don't even understand, more of a drill done, and then it's a very, very simple one, right? You want to reply directly to that, the project manager says, at a glance, he sees, okay, 10, you reply, 10, you reply, yeah, so he knows that it has been forward, right? The card, where your...Taking in terms of colour coding, 10%, right? You can have some projects for some resources, it could be less than 10% also, it is a issue. No, so give it as what Deltek is giving for the plan. Yes, the actuals actuals will be a non-editable one, because that is coming from my time sheet, correct?So, that, and also the plan, also, it is certainly not a non-meditable, but the future plan, it was, yes, yes, yes, correct. So, just like Del Tech functionality, it, you know what we do, because it reviews, we say, okay, open Del Tech, and then we say, ohh, you planned for 30 hours and you actually go forty-five hours. So, these kind of questions we ask.Okay, fine. This works, but we want that functionality. Like, we'll have colour coding also, you can philtre based on colour. Essentially, yeah, so if you can again, same thing, if you go to Deltech and see those functionalities, how we're doing it, how we are reassigning resources, how we are...Because yesterday, last night, I was assigning resources on a project. To be honest, I don't do it myself. It's mainly Thalha, but I was going, it was very easy. I just reassigned, I planned the whole thing very quickly. I reassigned resources, because there you can also see the profit percentage changing. Now, that's another matter. Yeah, here also.Put it to, yeah, let's say you are adding on resource, this will update on real time, neither can I call the cost utilisation, okay, so plan is this actual now, as you change resources, this get update now, how you want it, you can how we want it, we will tell you, yeah.Yes, so as you added it, you know, resources here, yeah, this is like a summary, but the cost will change. For me, I would also like a table, simple table of by stage, you know, that I have here in the project review, something like this.Yeah, something like that, and which we will tell you, yeah, and you can do discipline stage, stage discipline. Ah, okay, good. This is for that this month, and then you can just do, can you say discipline stage, discipline to stage, then click that.Subtotals are coming in.Margin here, but we can also say variance, no, this minus this, we can even have own value, we can have everything, see columns, you can add, we can add anything, that's it, good. Now, this table, what you have here, the resource, we can, yeah, we will, this is very too much for this thing, too much with the table.OK, and if one more functionality I like in Deltek is that you can see hours and you can toggle between hours and cost. Hi, yeah, be ahead, yeah, be ahead, yeah, be ahead, see, yeah, pay hours and cost, yeah, no, I mean in the reporting side as well.Uh, where you were she showing, and I think where he showing is a project review is all values, uh, yeah, you can talking within hours as well, then also you can same thing, no data, you just pull in the data.P.T.K., huh, yeah, without, yes, then you can also have, yeah, good.This is based on, but the concept is, yeah, is it? So now my question is, what is struggling? The one thing we struggle within Deltech is, I cannot see when I'm entering the resources, I cannot see by discipline. That's right, I have that here. Show me, no, I mean that tab is missing by discipline.You can have it here, plan, when I only, I wanna philtre this out, I wanna say I want to only, I mean, I wanna look at architecture discipline only, right? So, there you have done it in the other path, Yahavi, it should be like, you know, like I should see by stage and by discipline.The resource assignment, yes, because if easy, then then you just, I see by discipline, I can fill in the resources. OK, yeah, so I have to go down, down, down, OK, philtre out architecture, then I look at it, or you could give me a philtre.Right, if that would be easy, yeah, if it does that, yeah.Or your philtre stage, or you know the philtres, yeah, either labour caused by discipline, and yeah, that we can, if we finalise it on how we want this to look, yeah, but I can understand, we can pull in whatever, right? Yes, so that we will, let's give it some thought and tell you exactly how we want it to look, but yeah.I think it's cool.Or maybe this is the first time that he's gotten to see me positive back. No, no, no, this is the effect of you going on a peaceful vacation. No, I just got a message and I need to postpone it, by the way. Yeah, no, no, nothing. It's an issue. No, no, no, yeah, it's okay. It's not the same manager.So I need to push it by one week, so I think next week I do.I don't know. We have you for a minute. Oh, no. No, no. I mean, I think Rohit was thinking, okay, two weeks, I'll have totally to myself whether Rana would be. No, no, actually Gautham said that that I'm so happy going on. Whatever she is doing here, I do it for my company cost.Exactly, and then you want to finish, but ticket there are a lot of dependence on the fusion side, yeah, stop, but we just.No, no, both are stakeholders.Sex world, no, but going here, no, no, serious man, it's needs to be, they need to spend a lot of time with that now that the...You, yeah, the front ending is done. I think most of your time will now go into translating this front ending to the, yeah, your back end. That is the most complicated piece, yeah, front ending just at a prototype level. I don't have to code it function. See, once you, once you have this, then there will be a change between this to that. No, that's fine.Right, during your coding, yeah, utilisation, so this, this is basically copy the functionality. Consultants, what exactly is this to resource utilisation, say, consultant, only consultants means we use.So, in our projects, we use resources, yes. We also use Consultants to deliver jobs, right? So, again, you add the source, add consultant.Okay, consultant, you add basically it is consultants means you add a lump sum, lump sum cost for each person, so there is no connexion with the resource, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes.I think, I think she said, yeah, so baseline, I know the first step creating the baseline is here, correct? Yes, yes, correct, correct, only the WBS is created there, correct, the frame is here, correct, then the data, the dates.And entering the cost data, resource data, everything is here, no, no, no, no, cost data, resource data will come from Oracle, Kuniyil, resource entry, you can change the resource or allocate the resource, OK, when she is saying resource people.Or no estimate for the project. Can you help us by going to the resource plan?So, that, yeah, the people are sitting there, the master of employee, I'm putting how many people I need for my job, correct? That is here, that is here, that is here, that is here. This translates into cost of resource, correct? Yes, generated here, displayed here, displayed here, displayed here, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, I'm just looking at it, yeah, wherever it comes from.So, I add 20 people, then the 20 people cost gets shows, yes, and the total will show here somehow, which I like the way, but of course, we will change the exact whatever, so say this cost me whatever you're saying, 11 million, right? Live cost, then, so what I'm saying is the first baseline also is generated here, generated method.Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then he says, "Submit baseline for approval," it goes to the Oracle workflow, whatever it happened, whatever, perfect, so, and it will show that it is up at some point, yeah, status also will be, status also, monthly forecast also, same thing, it's created here, and then the versions are saved here.From Oracle or whatever, the PM can see any version compare with any version. Next forecast as well is the PM will update forecast on a monthly basis and submit here, click submit. So, how it works in Oracle?I was only the same thing, the same thing what you have shown, the, the, then it comes back when we were talking about the Consultants, now it comes to consultants, that's why his question was, so then question was, this is the, yeah.OK, there is a is a resource. These are the categories, so the supply categories are held as one database, and you should correct. OK, we maintain that, and then you will add parent level to our detailed design, tender documentation. Now, this is this is an interesting conversation. This is why yesterday we had a.workshop with four I apps and also it links with what Frederick was asking today.To generate the earned value by stage, so that we can shut it off by stage. Is it related to contingent worker? No, it is no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no contingent is no.Contingent for me is staff. OK, yes, no, but contingent, you're paying the that contingent work to to vendor, it's a vendor that vendor sits here, right? OK, so there are two things right? Contingent, OK, in the services being offered by XYZ.They are also offering you, you know, consultancy service. Just correct me if I'm wrong, right? Same company offers two things. Gives you people, gives you service. This will be for the service against that project. That will be for the people that I'm giving. So there when it is coming.It is Gautham who is with the consultancy company called XYZ. As a body shop, I have done my job. That comes in the staff for which you are planning, resource planning. I am the resource, but here when it is coming, the XYZ company, you were paid them for doing certain services.So, this will be service purchase order that will be person purchase order, so purchase order actually will be, that's how I want it, that is how we should see, so this also come from Oracle, as part of WBS will come, you could separate API, they when I plan this thing right when I'm doing a WBS.I'm saying that in this WBS I need so many people. I'll also be saying, Annapurni, just correct me if I'm wrong. I'll also be saying which are the services that I'll be taking from outside people. Is it tied up with the WBS? This is also tied up with the WBS. Yes. I think at the stage level. Yes.We will have, that's what I'm saying; there's an interaction, they will be happening at the stage level, not at the discipline level, if I, that's the change we want to make from that, so in Deltek it is a discipline, we put it because it's, you know, we said it's too difficult to maintain because then already we are uploading all the AP data into that.Then uploading it by stage manually is difficult. So we made the decision. We keep sub-consultants as one line in the WBS to make it easy for us. But here, because everything is integrated, the best practise is for this to be integrated within each stage. I have one question here. So I've got a project. I'm creating the WBS, but.Today, I would not, which is correct, showing which consultancy company I'm going to take for, let's say, their inspections or anything. So it will be like this. The discipline will be like how we do it now. We have a generic, you will have a generic one, right? At what point would you raise the purchase order?Forget that generic one, so you have a budget for that. So, when you plan the budget, right? Yes, you will say I'm gonna use 2 million for inspection services. So, your line is in that at the stage level, you said inspection services budget is 10 million, you know, 1 million. Now, you when you start to raise the purchase order.Right, the projects purchase order will let you say which project, which discipline, and about which stage it will let you do it, right? So, you would have said inspection service, so budget will be 1 million there, no actuals here, it will come back as you know.ABC Consultants, 0 budget, but you will expect to have an actual here.When you roll it up, it will. So there is, so we have a budget. OK, first time budget. Yes, 1 million. We will enter that 1 million here. Let's say KCA. OK, we may not know the name. So that is why there will be one line which will have budget, no actuals.Like we have generic, and this is something that when you think about, we have generic resources, right? We have like an architect, like that, we should have categories, but you have interior design, blah, blah, blah, blah, right? So here it will be interior design, generic. Well, I think at some point, the actual consultant will come, right? At some point, but then that is through procurement, right? That is, no, no, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm seeing.Maybe in July, August, September, or like previous months in future, it might be somewhere, it might be empty if it's not finalised, yeah, so that's what I'm also saying, so you have generic, so you have one line generic which has a budget of 1 million, August, September, October, no actuals.Now when the actual is going to come, it will be ABC consultant. He will not have that budget against that line because he's taking the parent one. Then he will, this one will start to have the actuals.So, when you roll up these two, you will see that the budget was so much, but the cost is what they were saying, they were saying the cost is the same thing in the resource plan also, they're replacing the generic resource with the actual assignment, an actual name, yeah, so something similar here, it can happen, no, they can assign, so, yeah, we cannot from structure point, no, no, you cannot be a data component, no, but you're right, whatever we are discussing, I like.What you said that it's within this, it's like a parent. Yeah, the budget as a parent, you can have multiple, you know, you could even under architecture, I could have two companies, right? Two companies, yeah, yeah, so that means I maintain the architectural business, stage consultancy fee, or whichever one line.Second line, third line is all the actuals, I think, yeah, exactly, but for them, I think, yeah, skeleton point of is fine. See here also, if you can think like this thing, Annapurni, yeah, the detailed design is your one area, but under you are saying that my discipline also goes under detailed design, in detailed design, there will be, and then there will be multiple vendors.But on this data, I that is only the commitment, if you, hey, hey, you cannot this thing because that's the budget is done at Fusion, your actuals are done at Fusion, so you just display it here, and this, this at this side, the client cost also will get from Fusion only, actuals also will get from Fusion, the screen is just like a view, yeah.OK, is it? It will be good, but no, but I don't want the PMC.to have for me the way it should be is if I baseline something.OK, and correct me if I'm wrong, brace line approved. OK, brace line, I think, some time, yeah, then the project time sheet people will enter, so I have, yeah, so there's no contact, but that's not also this time sheet, and which time this one, there's no, no, this is not this, this is this is.So, let's say I come back and I budget it for, you know, solution design, right? Then I put one line, solution design, then I have Brad Saul, then I have another company, they all, but my, that is my solution design will have one budget of, so when you roll it up, then you will see budget, what are the actual spends? That's what you see, I, you know, it's very time answering, so I'm always questioning that.Yes, once it is paid or raised, okay, so here it will be Annapurni, he had a very good good question. Here, what you will be seeing is the committed, that is, where a purchase order has been raised. It's important to see that, so in the reporting as well, we should have a commitment schedule for, but you know...OK, not problem for you, but we need the commitment to be right; we have the budget, we have the committed value, yeah, which is spent actually, yeah, and then actual risk that is based on AP, whatever, invoice, yeah, pay, yeah, and then you have the remaining budget, yeah, now.The question is, I don't want to waste time every month updating the forecast.I just want to see the remaining.No, actually, I don't see. The main purpose of consultant the planning is if Emaar wants to see, then they're going to pay the consultant. So that is a different issue I'm talking about. That's a separate conversation. I'll come to that separately.So my issue is every time the real headache for us or anybody is to update the, if your ETC is wrong, that means the forecast is completely wrong.Yeah, so my question actually is a fusion question.How do I to manage that, you know, for me?Because I know I have this as the budget, right? Your budget is fixed. If somebody forgets, like you're saying, somebody forgets to enter the ETC, my forecast drastically drops. My margin shoots up. Yeah. How do we? So you have your budget. So you have the spent so far.Spent right, then you have a commitment, then of course the commitment is here, let's talk commitment and the purchase order, yeah, plus the invoices for which I have already received the invoices, so, so you'll have a purchase order, you'll have the invoice value, these two ends up as a commitment.So budget minus spent minus a commitment is your balance. It's A calculation I want. That's what I want. OK, that's your balance. So any anywhere you go, you have a budget. So far you. That's the forecast then. OK, so these are numbers that the system knows.So balance is something that you have out of the 10 million. Now we have a balance of 2 million. Now we have estimated to a completion or is this thing is coming from your forecast as how much that this system cannot calculate it.Or is there a formula that we can use? No, no, what we can do is, by default, it can take the remaining.OK, default minimum has to be the remaining, which can be edited if needed, Karati. Then, then we can default the this thing as forecast as the remaining balance. Yeah, then I'll come to what Thalha is saying. It has to be time related.by forecast.So, now you have a manage Thalha, this is what I'm saying. This is the integration with the procurement. I don't know how to select to create the procurement or something, or is it completely managed? OK, or can I say, can I or the other option is we can assume it is time, you know, time related based on your schedule, so when you're...We can, we can link it to the billing schedule. I don't know. OK, I'll write it to you. So, right now, when you are seeing the forecast, that is your out of your 10 million budget, your spend and your commitment is 8 million. So, you have a remaining 2 million, which you are now bought it into a forecast. Now, you want a forward-looking plan.How you are going to spend this two minutes right now in this place, where this is primarily on the consultancy services right here, you are putting a, you would actually put a budget.Not just one finite number, by month, by date, or something, you if you're not doing then.I mean, we can.We should, then, then, so I'm trying to see, where can I get a calculation data from? That's what yesterday we were trying to brainstorm with full IOPS.Because, yeah, Consultants, that's why we left off actually yesterday. We have a billing schedule, right? We need one is billing schedule. We find out the billing schedule. Now, where does it come from? Procurement, right? You already have it in procurement for the remaining balance or whatever you call it, that has to be manually done.So, the two, the two million, I would have to link it with the programme. This is where I'm saying, how can we make it easy on ourselves? Can we link it to the programme?Say, you OK, I give you the logic for that also. So, you have another one year, the project is going on for one year, your forecast is now or the balance is 2 million. How do you spread? The question is, how do you spread this 2 million over this? For that, the easier way isI mean, I'm going at this stage. I have a stage start and the end. Yes. Right. So this stage is getting over in the next two months. In, in, in, that's why we need to start and they need to be linked like how we have for the disciplines.This will also have to be, yeah, the I don't even need that, right? I'll give you why, so I have my stage and discipline now.I know my disciplines under the stage. I have multiple discipline. Go back to your grand chart where you are saying start to end, so I know when is the start and end for all the this thing across all the. Now this is at the stage level, so by rolling it up, I know this stage is.Starting and ending, but imagine, in theory, this is a discipline.Same thing, stage and discipline. Yeah, the budget would have a start and the end. No, the beginning one. Try to explain that these would also have dates. OK, yeah, because I'm telling you in reality, my interior designer will start later. Forget reality, I'm just saying in how it functions, but dates are in the top.How you will create a schedule for this? You want to create a schedule you have? That's my, that's where I was coming from there, because see, I can make it simple and I can say just follow that, but in reality...This guy will come first, this guy will second, come second, consulting, they have their own, but I think very theoretical, but that's exactly how it will function. An interior design cannot start unless an architect freezes his planning. OK, so, but I know we can dumb it down by...But I, why, you know, why do you need to? Why do you want to make an exception now? Default it can pick up default if you put the top level like at any stage you say start and end automatically the disciplines will follow the start end, unless you edit it change it.At least I'm giving the PM to edit because some great PM is like, no, no, no, I want to show the exact thing because this functionality we can use to have one common dashboard between, that's what we are coming to, right? David and us. So I can question why is there a delay in this? Delaying means cost, right? I think.So, the comment is going back to the schedule, you will need this as well, you will need for sub-consultants also, starting the dates. Cool, when again, does not for me, it will come back to the fusion, how you are adding consultants there, how you are adding dates there, you will have to add consultants there, yeah, you will have to add consultants there only, WBS, you have to add, how will I know then which sub-consultants will be there, that will be there in.Yeah, I think it's just like a generating thing. Here, here we pay it, I mean, not this, but someone else. No, no, no, no, so it's mainly from a resource you can pay, not from sub-consultant. This consultant, which we are talking this as a consultant, you cannot.Yeah, yeah, yeah, here you can. I have one question over there, right? So, first line I'm saying, we know interiors is going to be from 1st of August to 31st of December. I have given that take going back to, but that is for interior design consultancy.Right, I'm now going to have multiple consultants come in. Now, the same logic when we again, I have a balance of 2 million and I have four months for the interior design. It could be spent on the same consultants that I have, or it could be for a totally new one that is coming up altogether. I know.Right. So at the most you will get is that consultancy service, which is interior designing, you have 2 million to spend across three months or two months, which will be approximately whichever based on the dates that you give. That is the... You're saying straight lining? Straight lining.Yeah, because with the dates, that's the only thing that you can, that is base, yeah, that's what I'm saying, so we can have an option to straight line it for the revenue forecast, right? Revenue, ultimately, you will need revenue forecast for your, what, your SCM, ECM, only for it, EPM, EPM, whatever model, no, but that would be, that's your revenue forecast, this is your...We want to come to that, so you are trying to come to a spend forecast here, cash flow forecast, just tell me what I'm saying is, by doing all of this, we are making sure that that is also answered, yeah, yeah, yeah, so, so, what, at the end of the day, you are going to push data to Oracle, Oracle will push it to that EPM, correct? So, I have...something, so the objective we have to try and get is we have something that is validated by the project team, which ultimately sum up at the portfolio level. So it will help in your budgeting, it will help in your forecasting, it will help in everything. So that's why I want the time-related cost. Coming back to what Thalha was also asking for.That is the reason we want time related spend. Whether I agree with you, I think straight lining Thalha is the simplest way, although it is not the right way or the practical way. This is, I am giving you the only way that is available. But I would.Yeah, so what I want is for smaller projects, I will say straight line it when there is, rather than having no information, some information is better. So we'll say straight line it in, so we have an option, but we will, for most projects, we will want a commitment schedule. In the commitment schedule, I will.At the, I will need to enter Thalha, if you can pay some attention now, we will need to have a forecasting per stage for all projects, yeah, or not for all projects, in some projects, at least at the minimum, we will have straight lining, yeah, by default.But we will be expected to forecast for each stage, as we are doing now. I give you not just a minute, hold on, I mean, yeah, and sorry to interview the best way, and for Rohit.I think, yeah, this is macro level as a as a 50,000 feet view design looks good, but I think what and there again still there whatever we are discussing is like is more technical and we have no technical, and yes, we need to talk and all, so what I was thinking maybe the 10%, 10 to 20% variations will be there.In this screen, understood. Yeah, actually, I am very clear, because, but, but let's pull the data. I think most important thing, what are the problem now, because they haven't seen Fusion and Blue Base, I think they have taken it, we have seen it, but nothing more than that, but then what will go and detail the backend now, currently, just for your information, so we are...Giving data to Oracle Fuser for a 10 projects. OK, yeah, OK, for 10 projects, data of WBS cost and everything, OK, to test, OK, so they are uploading data, OK, sure, and now I think what the next day we're gonna schedule a call with you for it to walk through, and at the time you can ask this question to their team, once you will go through it.Then let's talk about directly API. Okay, tell them, "Hey, give me your API. Okay, because they have already, okay, I'm sorry, I've been back to that meetings, Vasan. Can I call you first?I, I, yeah, drawing right. The next actions item, the moment they will push the upload the project data in a sandbox. Okay, what, so tomorrow they have to walk through the Oracle fusion, action item number one, where they can also ask this. I have already informed Shu, Shu is coordinating, he will send the meeting. That is the number one. Number 2, we have that.The float, cleaner spending expenses, this wrap up and go.The second number most important item is that they have the moment they will import the 10 project data into the sandbox environment. Let's set up a meeting and ask them to expose the. And you, I mean, I I hope now.Now, this is your first impression. OK, so whatever we can see, I hope he will give us a real picture like this only. Ohh, but see, you are in, you are in point of view, I'm talking about, yeah. OK, caveat, he is already there will be a certain changes here, and that's because this is just a prototype, not the actual. I did not even see one.I did not even see what I, based on our document proposal document, I have taken a list of APIs, this and I correct. No, my points, that's why I'm saying, I mean, to to move faster in a project, the moment they will like cause API, you ready to do the correct API inputs, and then we can see how this prototype looks like with the actual data. OK, and then maybe whatever we are doing is brainstorming that how to do, what to do, how to do forecast.That we can discuss in actual data, and maybe every time we can get the real input that, "Hey, I don't like these, I don't like this update. Fine, that approach is also fine. Like, this is seventy-eighty percent okay. I really like the interface. I mean, because, see, I don't want to leave up then, but those are in a group, 70, 80% okay. I'm fine with this approach, because see what happens if...The concept itself is, whatever we are talking about, forecast and all, until this expense is missing, by the way, yeah, this, yeah, this expense is start going, so you won't say seventy-eighty percent OK, huh? You said you started off saying it's a concept, no, no, what, what, what Jalpesh is trying to say is, yeah, we'll...Start integrating the API directly in this, yeah, yeah, no, the look in three, yeah, so the content, the exactly in screen, you want to change something, I'm OK, I, I like that, but the base, it's a very good concept, really good, very useful, I think it's good, you know, so there's no problem there, but don't say it's now seventy-eighty percent, I can't even touch anything, no, no, no, no, because you told me I can, no, no, it will change.But what Jalpesh wants me to do is, yeah, take the APIs from start developing this, and we will decide on the fly what instrument, whatever we are discussing, how to code, what to change, how to discipline stage and all that, that real things which you can do or play here in your screen, if we have a data from Oracle, and now this Oracle people I was speaking with Gautham that.Or it could be, anyway, they are importing 10 project data. Okay, so the moment they finish up, why, why can't they export their APIs? And I'm asking Rohit to do the collection. So let me be very clear, yeah, that's the technicalities of it, of course, but let me be very clear on what I'm working on. Very good, I mean, I think it's really good.in terms of how you've done it so quickly, okay, and I like the idea of it and the thing. What now we need to do is every screen we need to go and say, right, I don't want this, I don't want this, I want this. Second, functionality of resources and planning has to come from Del Tech, Del Tech, okay, you have to have all the functionalities.OK, so if you need to call Thalha and understand, or you go into yourself and all that, content of the dashboard, yeah, content of the dashboard will be what we want. OK, this is just a mock mock, and see here, he wanted to show you this, this, we were talking, OK, very small thing.Yeah, we can expand. OK, see, this is, yeah, this is good enough. OK, but what we can do is maybe make a proper risk register. OK, but this is good enough. Yeah, yeah, just click on, what happens if you click on, even the address? Nothing, the same fields will come, Jalpesh. OK, so maybe here we may need more field or link with certain.Yeah, status, or you know, stage, yeah, again, see, we cannot go an attack. I don't know what goes as part of this, I can, if you want, I can give you a template, no, if you have to do different integrations, integration, fusion has the open, standalone data, detail, cost impact, I don't know like how that, maybe it's, it's, I'll give you an example.one where I'm saying, okay, I have a risk potential impact for cost. Can that, yeah, this will be a standalone risk register that the PM will input, okay? And it will go back to Fusion. Now, now that question, okay, okay, they can go on. Or not, I don't know. We don't know. Yeah. So the already Fusion, we can, you know, tomorrow call, you can see. You don't have, okay, for the answer, why?Oracle does not maintain it, this register. Yeah, it doesn't, so instead of pushing it there, you can leave it here for the PM, because this is going to be the only interface for PA. OK, but instead of like, but just like a record creation task management.They need task management type me, because if there is an audit, yeah, Frederick keeps coming at me at with contingency, when release contingency, then I can show him there's a risk registered on this project because there's so much of risk, and he can also submit it to the auditors if he want, so there is a fund, there is a purpose behind it, okay? That's why I'm asking for risk, yeah, otherwise, so I think what they are think that if Oracle doesn't have a.Functionality to consume the research, then we can leave it here, then the data will be here only, then it will not be pushed back over it, which is fine, it is fine if that's what, and from here you can export the report, give it to Patrick, yeah, totally fine with it, as long, and I was also telling him that, because I can see the...How quickly you've done something like this? I can have the dashboard here, which, you know, our our project, this is not development, this is just called, yeah, development, this is just a prototype, yeah, but if you have done a very good job, what is expecting dashboard then, yeah, no, the the the next thing since I have.Leave is getting postponed by one week. Same time next week, she will say, okay, show me the working model of it. I'll just tell you a simple thing. Now, to build this graph, like a simple graph, I need to explore what AKS Fusion has, from where this data can come, how many different AQIs I see is not good, okay, it's not good.No, no, no, this, I will try, they will take that development piece is not, that's what I'm trying to say, yeah, OK, no, but then you give me the, you do the one other way around now, Rohit, yeah, OK, you, hey, I want this API, hey, I want this API, hey, I want this API, and then you give me your report, right? That's what I'm saying, I need to give you the report, you need to.Bombard to the four AI team, with the help of Gautham. I need this API. How can I find it? OK, I can do that once you want to go before then I can share. Yeah, yeah, yeah, David. It will they are OK to get custom MPs right? Yeah, I don't have to combine 3-4 APIs builders.They can create one API for me, we have to rule it, but look, when I say, when we say, we need to do it, but when even when we are, when we say, OK, yeah, we do, we say for this API.Yeah, by example, ESE API to local logic, click it, then I have already, I mean, in Oracle, they have a standard API which they can expose. We will see what, what or how much we can, you are telling him about the report pack, send the entire report.Pack that we sent through for IRS, provide it to them quickly. Your few inputs on this project as well, like at a project level, this is a dashboard. I have a proper session on this, because I'll send you the dashboard that we have for a project. Yes, okay, fine, perfect. Quickly, Oga, this I have, I have a.Give you proper input. I like, like I said, if it's a look and see, it's fine. The dashboard looks like this right now. Contents, I have to give you. This is the first meeting we have. I mean, I'm giving the dashboard. We already discussed. Let's see, only now. It's just looking around and everything. I can look around. I can tell you make.Yeah, happy, I want a table, not this. I can do all that, 100%, but I'm very impressed with the overall structure and the overall.I think skeleton, skeleton, and the feel, you know, and then I, the way I he's moving around, yes, it's very intuitive for a PM. It's critical. OK, so, but now the exact content, like, functionality, content I'll give you, or we work together on it based on your API, so it's all.It's all a mixed bag. I cannot see the contract summary. Yeah, paragraph one.Contract value, no, no, no, no, the contract summary that will come from Oracle, no, no, no, no, no, no, contract value, project, let's go to the other meeting, because HR is also, let's go to the other meeting, please, I have to, we can go 5 minutes.You are in that other meeting focus.Five to six, yeah, let's go, and you can send them all the reports. See you again, yeah, hopefully. Wait, enterprise, that's it.Okay, just talk to him, then I'll go for the other one. Can you open, I think, your e-mail? Maybe I'll just speak about it, and then we can wrap up this. Word document? Yes, yes. Okay, since I have to go for the other project, if he had the invite, I would have...Send him, but I think in this work you can do the reverse engineering, so like, you know, tomorrow's calls and you go through with this next, and let's say, ask this question that, hey, where is this research, how you are maintaining it, how you are calculating this forecast? I mean, or reverse answer to, I mean, to four hours.Yeah, no.Tick, so this I think that they can echo the data, they can echo the APIs, and then, but this is nothing but it's already calculated, but my point is that I don't want you to calculate here. Ohh, correct. What else you are saying? The EAC and all of this calculation, I don't want you to create it.You are not gonna calculate here, right? More difficult, that's what you are gonna say. What is your API to get this number? Yeah, that's the component.That's what the components change a little.OK, cool. Yes, I can, I can, I can, yeah, Ashok Deepak can drop off.Hello!
576072292608Ashok   Pillanam   1:50:55Okay, yes, go ahead, okay.
576072292608Deepak Bhattad   1:50:56All right.
576072292608Rohit  Bhattad   1:50:58Okay, thank you.
576072292608Ashok   Pillanam   1:50:59Thank you.
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