pos;s not first time thing when you're setting up a project. Okay, we will
talk about that.Edit project, so assume that being a project manager, this is just the first time. I think,
let's assume, let's assume like this way that this seventy-fourteen-sixty, I mean, whatever the
start and end date which is coming discipline-wise or stage-wise, which is coming from Oracle. Let's
assume like this way that in Oracle somebody has created the WBS, it has come up, and it is coming up now, as
a project manager, I do have a right, I can change it here.The moment I will change it, it will push back to
Oracle, and then the moment it will push back to Oracle, it will push back to P6 also, yeah, and then
that's up to, and for David, it will just be a notification, it's a notification that is updated, so
this now here, I think what the input which Thalha has given, yeah, that they need, huh, yes, otherwise you
put only week, yeah.They, they need a time scale, if there is a time scale, because for us, your time scale is
3 years. Actually, what happens is, like, for for other projects, we have supervision boilers, it goes like a
two years or three years, so we just say, so this bunch of two years, it will be yours. So, in this, if you
can see Delta functionality.No, no, yeah, in that, so Deltek has all that functionality, right? Yeah, so
weeks, days, and years, and months, and quarters, and OK, because it can be any number of days, right? So, the
contract may be very specific that it ends on a Monday or a Tuesday, whatever. I think I have that in the I
did think, just make, yeah, just, and the other question is, sometimes I could have a different date here,
so...Theoretically, if you can expand it, yeah, so I could change, so this is finish to start, right? Start to
finish, yeah, finish to start, yeah, so this I'm doing on the, OK, let me, so even the links,
theoretically, you should be able to change it, right? I could make it start to start, I could make it finish
to start, you can change it, you can change it, you want that also, yeah, I'll tell you how I did it, so
just copy the delta functionality, yes, yes, yes.This one, OK, that sounds good enough, that that works, so
just copy that, yeah, yeah, I put it here, so this is the detailed view screen in this schedule, ohh nice, but
this is basically wherein let's say you this needs to start before this one, right? So, you just put it
the linkage this thing, yeah, you may have rebuild key hold on.Okay.Nice, very good. No, this is the actual,
you know, we have Microsoft Planner. I don't go to, I know, yeah, I kind of, but the Microsoft Planner
also also has that thing right where you go and then you link on this note, this is like a.The plugin, yeah,
but you have some paid plugins, will do more than $1000 to manage this, the gantt chat and all that, but I
don't feel, I mean, this is, but can you do that thing of just, you know, different, OK, that's
fine.That's true, drag and drop. What you're saying is drag and drop. Yeah, sometimes you just take
your cursor and link, right? I'm not asking, I'm just, so you are saying that you will not change
the date, but Annapurni, this is for my understanding purpose, you are saying that a person will not change
the date, but they will play with this Gantt chart.That's what you're trying to say, yeah, and here
they want to link it to here, like that. OK, so automatically the date will be also, always there's an
estimated start, estimated finish, actual start, actual finish, yeah, and that was is there a baseline start,
baseline finish also? Yeah, yes, so all of that is checked from Deepak. OK, just make sure you're
fully.Taking all those functionalities, I have it in the one minute, so here I had this timeline, as you
mentioned, right, week, months, quarters, but for filling also we need correct, yeah, OK, fine, filling that,
and estimated one minute, so this is the point, and then it should say that no, it should give a.We should
definitely enter all predecessors and successors. It should not let us not enter because what will happen
there? Oh, is that it? I would like that to happen because otherwise your programme will not move with, right?
I mean, if something there's a break between them, there is no impact. Impact, they're not really
impact. Somebody may.Somebody may change this, it may not impact something else, and it will be good to say
that all. So, what are the dates? This is an actual plan start plan start date, but there's an actual
date and there is a baseline also baseline date. I don't know how you're gonna integrate it with.So,
yeah, yeah, exactly. Now, here we need to understand Oracle, correct, because what Oracle is giving you a date
that you are gonna populate here, right? This is from the schedule which they prepare. They are preparing a
schedule. I don't know if schedule thing is there in Oracle or not. I mean, whatever we are pushing, we
need to push this data back to Oracle. So, Oracle also has to have all these three dates, yeah, actual date,
plan, plan.It is, if you can cheque with them, I know for a fact that they have scheduled an actual, but these
are them, baseline should be there, baseline they are keeping it only for, I think the reporting where you
take a snapshot, keep it right, so that is one thing, see that they should be, even if it's there as a
snapshot, it should appear to them.So it can then find any interface like that. If you could just say this at
a very high level, they know that, you know, where is the delay? There is a delay, there is, you know, the
data, so we can give those KPIs here as well on top, as I just said, but main main functionality, yes,
interface with Oracle, I don't know, so that's something we can.And delta functionalities in terms
of, yeah, dates and just see how the entry is, because and how the connexion is, but it looks good, yeah, and
that's what I, I just, I handled all this in the details, yeah, and I just wanted to show this, it looks
user-friendly is what I'm saying, it's fine, yeah, and this, the drag-drop thing.I don't know,
I'll have to cheque. They don't want, no, that's that's maybe our question. I will just
see, and we'll cheque with Fusion also if we can capture all the, because my question now, the follow up
question to that, sorry, just, we'll just finish it off now, when you're entering it for the first
time, schedule, you enter all three dates, or like actual, obviously, you're not baseline, actually, see,
when the initial of the project, we always enter what is the baseline start and baseline.And, and what is the
estimated start on this? You're starting with estimated, yeah? So, right now, estimated, and you're
starting with estimated, and then baseline it, you right? Just correct me, yes, this is the first, this is
first time he's creating the project, right? So, let's assume that's the case.So he's
pulling the data from Oracle. I don't know how the predecessors and all will work, how the data interface
is there. Yeah, that's a question Mark I have. If they have, otherwise we can do it here and then it
could be anyway pushed back, right? Yeah, so that's a question, yeah. And how that interacts with
Primaware, because then the logic will change.Yeah, so that's why the beauty of integration will come on
the handshake, yeah, because the here I think whatever they will push back to Oracle, each code is is the way
I mean a common terminology to understand or do the linking, yeah, so yeah, but then if they...Yeah, so
that's one thing. What I don't know how to that, so that, but having to answer your question,
you're starting off with a blank sheet of paper or with Oracle, you see, you come here, you do all of
this, right? No, but then when you are entering dates here, you'll enter baseline date only or baseline
date and no, no, no, I'll come to the baseline in a minute. They are saying they will they will enter
estimate date at the moment. No, you start, yeah, you call it, let's call it.Estimated for OK, OK,
because you're not baseline, baseline means baseline something is that's cast and stone, OK, so
there, if you again, if you look at Deltec, we'll see that save baseline or publish, OK, OK, OK, the save
baseline function, so something like that has to happen, so you click that and that becomes the baseline.Okay,
so once you click that, only then it becomes a baseline, then that gets saved as a baseline. You with me?
Yeah, so there is a, there is an action there, then it becomes a baseline. So the baseline creation is
here.Yes, a programme schedule, because I can't see that Oracle.Understood. So now during the project
creation only baselining will happen. So once post you have created the initial schedule.So now we are getting
initial schedule. You have put the estimated dates. I can read baseline also the schedule. OK, PM. PM can
baseline it as many times as he wants, right?My issue here, the, but then you said, right, it's casted on
a wrong, no, no, that is up to the come on that much, so we need to.Programme is then what I'm casting
to, what I'm fixing is the control on the work breakdowns, the activities and the codes. So, whether that
is data, change the baseline days multiple times. They can. Now, whether we need a control on that, whether
it, the only thing now will happen is.So, you'll have multiple big slides.Right, so, as per the last,
what the API wants, I don't think they've done anything for baselining it. You know, they
didn't give you any APIs for baselining, if I'm right. I'm not, I'm checking. So, we have
to cheque that, so let's...But again, the baseline is another function, but I don't know how we want
to integrate, but...But Thalha, or should we baseline it all together once the cost, or should we baseline the
schedule 1st and then we baseline? I mean, same, same, yeah, at the same time, so then we save baseline of it,
everything gets saved together as a baseline, and then, in case of a baseline, there is a workflow of
approval, if you see not a good.They have designed a workflow. In that case, the whole thing goes as an
approval workflow, one baseline cost, schedule, and...Yeah, whatever that's. So the thing is, even if we
do get the API for baselining, it should be that, you know, every time I change the baseline, I'm doing
it, might be that's kind of draught one. It shouldn't start pushing in on the workflow. There should
be somewhere where I've said, yes, to publish. Okay, so I come here, I'm doing this, I'm
calling it as a.baseline alpha, I work on that same baseline alpha with the cost and the other things coming
in, and then I publish, then it reversible. So that is something that we have to be conscious of, and
that's something tomorrow when we are meeting them, let's pass them a whole baseline creation and
all that.Oh, understood.So, new project comes in into a system, you start, you put an estimated started ended,
once you save, OK. Now, baseline happens after you put the estimated started ended, or you put it
together.There's an estimated strategy, yes, so let's not, let's consider baseline as after we
finish everything, all of that, OK? So, at this point, they should not be taken, I don't know, in your
technical terms, can you save this baseline or you say...You can say, yes, the part that the what is asking is
a draught baseline before I publish it, just publish it. It doesn't have to be baseline every time, so
you publish it, then it is the current programme, right? Estimated start and estimated finish, it's
saved, press done, press everything is done, then once the baseline is done, everything is done, then we
update the actual dates in action.No, so far as again, I'll have to see Deltek on this time, but that two
dates estimated start date, baseline start date, and actual dates, and actual dates, so when you create it in
Deltek, the schedule, you give both dates estimated and baseline date, or just when you publish, it gets
baseline, no, just when we click publish, then estimated start dates and end dates, it gets, in fact, for
that's what it will be different from Deltek.Because it is say baseline, there is no control. OK, in
this, if we're having a control, if you've seen the document, we said the baseline should have some
control, so maybe at least I, so this is submit baseline for approval, and it with the whole, then everything
will go.It will be, it will be the programme and it will be the cost of the company for Google, and then I
review it and I confirm. OK, it may even go to say finance or credit for Google, not Mohammed, but at least
internally there is a control that, look, yes, so you have.So, I'm okay with the 10% margin, but I know
I'll challenge it as I know you need to make 12% margin. So, what I'm trying to say is that schedule
is what right now it's estimated start, estimated finish, that I will use, I will save it and publish it
every time, maybe, or whatever you call it, all the controls you can read from Deltech.Okay, but the baseline
will be a formal submission. Submit baseline for approval. Yeah. Okay, before that, the PMC should be able to
review it once on the screen, right? Oh, this is how it will look. Yeah. Okay, and then submit. Okay. Okay, to
submit, submit. Okay, he can put some notes and submit it. So come as a form.For a preview, yeah, so then it
will go through like an omni approval and click compute. We will have to describe, as for the DOA, we will say
this has to be approved. This is the one that we are actually planning to do with an Oracle right baseline
workflow. So then, because when you're talking, I'm just trying to say one is when you say
review.Oracle, there is nothing called as a review. It is submit for approval. It goes for that same, no, no,
no, no, no, just hear me out.So, when the PM is actually doing a baseline, where he's coming back and
he's saying with the estimate and all of that, he suffers it from here. Back end, what happens behind the
screen is this goes to Oracle, triggers that workflow.It will go back all the way, you know, as per the DOA,
when it comes first to you, you can even reject it. It doesn't go to anyone else.Then you can rework on
that, resubmit it, and then it goes. But if you are, that is the normal way so far where we have been saying
that this, you know, the web app doesn't do a lot of other things. It's more of a wrap.Now, if we
step out of that, you know, this thing and say, come back, hey, I want to have a mini review here, right,
happening, then we'll have to incorporate that. And so why I'm trying to explicitly say is, as far
as the this thing, web app, we never.Looked into a workflow approval or something within this system, so let,
if that is the expectation, let's be clear, saying that that's my expectation that happens here.
Look, I don't want the technicalities behind the scene that you have to figure out to Gautham. No, no,
you want an approval pushing for approval should be here. Yeah, pushing for approval reviewing and all will
happen in Oracle.Fine, yeah, like I'm telling you, for me, it doesn't matter whether it's here,
there, anywhere. For me, I'm looking at the interface and I'm saying push it for approval, yes, yes,
that'll happen, that you work out how you want, that'll happen, yeah, the pushing happens from,
yeah, that's it, the approval and all by finance and all happens in Oracle, right, totally fine. OK,
first thing now, maybe what we'll just continue.Ohh, I understood. Good. Thank you. Let's go. Yeah,
OK. What we have set up estimated minutes here. OK, now and then you'll click on review now.What did that
review? Okay, sorry, I lost it. Let me start from the beginning again.So, we were setting up a new project,
right? I just click on new project, create schedule, OK?First, WBS set dates. OK, so you came to the second
step, you're setting up sequence and duration. Perfect, yeah. Question, just one thing, if you go back to
the...No, no, I understand. Third take, yeah, take three, take three.Some dates. OK, yeah.This is just about
creating a schedule and nothing else. No resourcing and all will be handled later on on the cost side.First, a
set if a schedule gets created, then we just mark it, or if you want to add resources also as part of this, we
can add that screen as well.It's about importing a new project into this system. Okay, just stay there.
One more thing I want to mention. So if I change this, this will change, yeah? Yeah, yeah, yes. Okay, so and I
could even have a link here. So this can be a little later as well, right?This can move, yeah?So, my first, if
I first type this, then all of this will be the same, correct? Yes, okay, so that saves time, but I can have a
choice that I move this like this, yeah, I can move this and then this can update. Ohh, yeah, obviously, yeah,
the first you don't have to enter the concept dates that is changed automatically, but is it also an
option that I, okay, and is it a copy paste? I mean, any other functionality, Thalha?The one with any other
functionality you want very quickly, it makes it easy for you, you know, so you cannot change these dates, you
can only change these dates. That's what I am assuming, because it'll all, right, exactly, which
makes sense, but I'm thinking you can also change that, and then this changes to one, but I know
that's a bit too much.Right, how does it work in like, how do you divide those dates? If you can give me
a logic, actually, what happens is, like, so let's say like concept is a is a rolled up, yeah, rolled up
W.B.S. So, what happens is if I change the parent one, the child, this which are concept design
development.Which is 90% of the time or 80% of the time? No, but how do you divide? Let's say concept is
4 weeks or 8 weeks. You equally divide the days? Could be equally, you know, because the logic is that under
this you have disciplines. Correct. Every discipline, so they can be the same or they can be different. OK,
like how you have shown.I think if you put it, you put parent numbers, everything is the same. The child
copies the parent numbers. Actually, it gives the option. So you're saying that, are you want to change
the child dates or not? It gives an option. So what happens is if you want to change the child, let's say
like on the top most level.If it is a project, okay, if it is on a project level, if I'm changing the
dates, it'll last, or you want to change the on all the parent or child dates, so then if you say no,
then automatically it doesn't change this changes. If you say yes, then it changes everything. How would
divides days in child or everything is the same?Yes, OK. Well, you can have that, so, but again, you have to
change dates individually at a wait, no, no, actually, so that is what actually, so first, actually, what I
see is you set a project on a like a time scale, OK? In the in the project, changing the dates for the the
child task, everything.It depends on our experience, like if you want to change, increase the duration, or
reduce the duration, but we want to see as a as a project, we want to see this much as a project, my project
duration, so it may this is the time then, so I first I change it on the project level, then I go and
cheque.Okay, child level, okay, this is my project time and this much only I have the time. So I can change on
any of the child levels and so that it can match to my project level. Now then here we have to consider one
thing, project started and did, dead loop, PS and tasks are coming from Fusion. Okay, so if you put putting, I
don't know if there is a dependent task logic in Fusion.If you are dividing all the, keeping all the
dates same for all the subtasks, then basically everything will overlap, right? It can overlap also. You see
that the cheque delta functionality, right? You will, right? Yeah, everything is OK. Just make sure that we
can set up a call for 30 minutes, either next week, yeah, when we understand, yeah, just to make sure all
those functionality are.Okay, fine. Next, if you want to add resource planning also here, we can do it as part
of initial setup. What I thought is we'll just create schedule 1st and then go to the resource planning
as pa