shok.Sorry, what are
we discussing?The selection of resource talk.So, Rohit, also the plan which are showing from August, right?
So, is there any way to just retain the?Usually, we can retain the plan, right?The old plan.For the previous
months, and not, yeah, there's a time sheet, there's a time sheet, basically, no, no, this is what
you have kept it as an actual, no, that August 2026 to this thing, just kept plan, yes, OK, so we have
actually like, like actuals and plan classes, actual correct that.So.I think, so your actual will actually
come from your entry, yes, right? So, this is going to be where you are planning, yes. So, in this project,
you had a planned resource, you'll have a planned line, then you'll have an actual line, so that was
another, I just wanted to show you those.Those colour labels are there, right? Yeah, so if you see red over
plan by more than 10%, do you want to see the actual planned hours? Yes, oh, that is also important, yeah, but
what for previous months, how does it matter? No, actually, for us, it's like currently that that is a
debate going on, like we need to see the...What is a previously planned and what is the actual? So that's
where I tried and showed with the colour this thing, right? But okay, you can show, but the screen might be
from previous months. Maybe a report you can have on this screen you need. Sorry, I lost you a little bit. So
what Thalha was saying is there are two hours, right?Planned versus actual, yeah, so if you you see till July,
the hours are greyed out, like you cannot really fill, those are the actual hours till July 26th, yeah, if you
see the heading, yeah, yeah, from August, it's the OK plan, what are you asking for? So, I want to see
like actuals and plan also for the previous months, if if this, yes, yes, yes, if there is a if there is a
possibility, that is useful.What I have handled that is that you have these three colours, right? Red,
I'm gonna and green. No, no, we we compare. We say you, you promised I'll just take this one
because, yeah, we'll add it there, no problem. Yeah, for sure. Maybe you'll plan slash, yeah, no, no
plan. You can just create another below line.That's OK, no, it's OK, because the sorry for the
benchmarking is to see the thing from where he's coming in, yes, I'm doing it to the source, right?
I click at colour, and I it will give me one row which is all the planned hours, the other row which is the
actual asking, and then we can just highlight like that colour.But colour coding is useful, or is it directly?
No, you can do it, you can keep it as your choice, you can keep it just, yeah, your choice, your choice, keep
the colour, no, by colour coding, let's say you select that colour, right? You, we can show that rows,
like, yeah, you can write, you, you were more intuitive, so we can tell.Where you click, I don't even
understand, more of a drill done, and then it's a very, very simple one, right? You want to reply
directly to that, the project manager says, at a glance, he sees, okay, 10, you reply, 10, you reply, yeah, so
he knows that it has been forward, right? The card, where your...Taking in terms of colour coding, 10%, right?
You can have some projects for some resources, it could be less than 10% also, it is a issue. No, so give it
as what Deltek is giving for the plan. Yes, the actuals actuals will be a non-editable one, because that is
coming from my time sheet, correct?So, that, and also the plan, also, it is certainly not a non-meditable, but
the future plan, it was, yes, yes, yes, correct. So, just like Del Tech functionality, it, you know what we
do, because it reviews, we say, okay, open Del Tech, and then we say, ohh, you planned for 30 hours and you
actually go forty-five hours. So, these kind of questions we ask.Okay, fine. This works, but we want that
functionality. Like, we'll have colour coding also, you can philtre based on colour. Essentially, yeah,
so if you can again, same thing, if you go to Deltech and see those functionalities, how we're doing it,
how we are reassigning resources, how we are...Because yesterday, last night, I was assigning resources on a
project. To be honest, I don't do it myself. It's mainly Thalha, but I was going, it was very easy.
I just reassigned, I planned the whole thing very quickly. I reassigned resources, because there you can also
see the profit percentage changing. Now, that's another matter. Yeah, here also.Put it to, yeah,
let's say you are adding on resource, this will update on real time, neither can I call the cost
utilisation, okay, so plan is this actual now, as you change resources, this get update now, how you want it,
you can how we want it, we will tell you, yeah.Yes, so as you added it, you know, resources here, yeah, this
is like a summary, but the cost will change. For me, I would also like a table, simple table of by stage, you
know, that I have here in the project review, something like this.Yeah, something like that, and which we will
tell you, yeah, and you can do discipline stage, stage discipline. Ah, okay, good. This is for that this
month, and then you can just do, can you say discipline stage, discipline to stage, then click that.Subtotals
are coming in.Margin here, but we can also say variance, no, this minus this, we can even have own value, we
can have everything, see columns, you can add, we can add anything, that's it, good. Now, this table,
what you have here, the resource, we can, yeah, we will, this is very too much for this thing, too much with
the table.OK, and if one more functionality I like in Deltek is that you can see hours and you can toggle
between hours and cost. Hi, yeah, be ahead, yeah, be ahead, yeah, be ahead, see, yeah, pay hours and cost,
yeah, no, I mean in the reporting side as well.Uh, where you were she showing, and I think where he showing is
a project review is all values, uh, yeah, you can talking within hours as well, then also you can same thing,
no data, you just pull in the data.P.T.K., huh, yeah, without, yes, then you can also have, yeah, good.This is
based on, but the concept is, yeah, is it? So now my question is, what is struggling? The one thing we
struggle within Deltech is, I cannot see when I'm entering the resources, I cannot see by discipline.
That's right, I have that here. Show me, no, I mean that tab is missing by discipline.You can have it
here, plan, when I only, I wanna philtre this out, I wanna say I want to only, I mean, I wanna look at
architecture discipline only, right? So, there you have done it in the other path, Yahavi, it should be like,
you know, like I should see by stage and by discipline.The resource assignment, yes, because if easy, then
then you just, I see by discipline, I can fill in the resources. OK, yeah, so I have to go down, down, down,
OK, philtre out architecture, then I look at it, or you could give me a philtre.Right, if that would be easy,
yeah, if it does that, yeah.Or your philtre stage, or you know the philtres, yeah, either labour caused by
discipline, and yeah, that we can, if we finalise it on how we want this to look, yeah, but I can understand,
we can pull in whatever, right? Yes, so that we will, let's give it some thought and tell you exactly how
we want it to look, but yeah.I think it's cool.Or maybe this is the first time that he's gotten to
see me positive back. No, no, no, this is the effect of you going on a peaceful vacation. No, I just got a
message and I need to postpone it, by the way. Yeah, no, no, nothing. It's an issue. No, no, no, yeah,
it's okay. It's not the same manager.So I need to push it by one week, so I think next week I do.I
don't know. We have you for a minute. Oh, no. No, no. I mean, I think Rohit was thinking, okay, two
weeks, I'll have totally to myself whether Rana would be. No, no, actually Gautham said that that
I'm so happy going on. Whatever she is doing here, I do it for my company cost.Exactly, and then you want
to finish, but ticket there are a lot of dependence on the fusion side, yeah, stop, but we just.No, no, both
are stakeholders.Sex world, no, but going here, no, no, serious man, it's needs to be, they need to spend
a lot of time with that now that the...You, yeah, the front ending is done. I think most of your time will now
go into translating this front ending to the, yeah, your back end. That is the most complicated piece, yeah,
front ending just at a prototype level. I don't have to code it function. See, once you, once you have
this, then there will be a change between this to that. No, that's fine.Right, during your coding, yeah,
utilisation, so this, this is basically copy the functionality. Consultants, what exactly is this to resource
utilisation, say, consultant, only consultants means we use.So, in our projects, we use resources, yes. We
also use Consultants to deliver jobs, right? So, again, you add the source, add consultant.Okay, consultant,
you add basically it is consultants means you add a lump sum, lump sum cost for each person, so there is no
connexion with the resource, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes.I think, I think she said, yeah, so baseline, I know
the first step creating the baseline is here, correct? Yes, yes, correct, correct, only the WBS is created
there, correct, the frame is here, correct, then the data, the dates.And entering the cost data, resource
data, everything is here, no, no, no, no, cost data, resource data will come from Oracle, Kuniyil, resource
entry, you can change the resource or allocate the resource, OK, when she is saying resource people.Or no
estimate for the project. Can you help us by going to the resource plan?So, that, yeah, the people are sitting
there, the master of employee, I'm putting how many people I need for my job, correct? That is here, that
is here, that is here, that is here. This translates into cost of resource, correct? Yes, generated here,
displayed here, displayed here, displayed here, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, I'm just looking at it, yeah,
wherever it comes from.So, I add 20 people, then the 20 people cost gets shows, yes, and the total will show
here somehow, which I like the way, but of course, we will change the exact whatever, so say this cost me
whatever you're saying, 11 million, right? Live cost, then, so what I'm saying is the first baseline
also is generated here, generated method.Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then he says, "Submit baseline for
approval," it goes to the Oracle workflow, whatever it happened, whatever, perfect, so, and it will show
that it is up at some point, yeah, status also will be, status also, monthly forecast also, same thing,
it's created here, and then the versions are saved here.From Oracle or whatever, the PM can see any
version compare with any version. Next forecast as well is the PM will update forecast on a monthly basis and
submit here, click submit. So, how it works in Oracle?I was only the same thing, the same thing what you have
shown, the, the, then it comes back when we were talking about the Consultants, now it comes to consultants,
that's why his question was, so then question was, this is the, yeah.OK, there is a is a resource. These
are the categories, so the supply categories are held as one database, and you should correct. OK, we maintain
that, and then you will add parent level to our detailed design, tender documentation. Now, this is this is an
interesting conversation. This is why yesterday we had a.workshop with four I apps and also it links with what
Frederick was asking today.To generate the earned value by stage, so that we can shut it off by stage. Is it
related to contingent worker? No, it is no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no contingent is
no.Contingent for me is staff. OK, yes, no, but contingent, you're paying the that contingent work to to
vendor, it's a vendor that vendor sits here, right? OK, so there are two things right? Contingent, OK, in
the services being offered by XYZ.They are also offering you, you know, consultancy service. Just correct me
if I'm wrong, right? Same company offers two things. Gives you people, gives you service. This will be
for the service against that project. That will be for the people that I'm giving. So there when it is
coming.It is Gautham who is with the consultancy company called XYZ. As a body shop, I have done my job. That
comes in the staff for which you are planning, resource planning. I am the resource, but here when it is
coming, the XYZ company, you were paid them for doing certain services.So, this will be service purchase order
that will be person purchase order, so purchase order actually will be, that's how I want it, that is how
we should see, so this also come from Oracle, as part of WBS will come, you could separate API, they when I
plan this thing right when I'm doing a WBS.I'm saying that in this WBS I need so many people.
I'll also be saying, Annapurni, just correct me if I'm wrong. I'll also be saying which are the
services that I'll be taking from outside people. Is it tied up with the WBS? This is also tied up with
the WBS. Yes. I think at the stage level. Yes.We will have, that's what I'm saying; there's an
interaction, they will be happening at the stage level, not at the discipline level, if I, that's the
change we want to make from that, so in Deltek it is a discipline, we put it because it's, you know, we
said it's too difficult to maintain because then already we are uploading all the AP data into that.Then
uploading it by stage manually is difficult. So we made the decision. We keep sub-consultants as one line in
the WBS to make it easy for us. But here, because everything is integrated, the best practise is for this to
be integrated within each stage. I have one question here. So I've got a project. I'm creating the
WBS, but.Today, I would not, which is correct, showing which consultancy company I'm going to take for,
let's say, their inspections or anything. So it will be like this. The discipline will be like how we do
it now. We have a generic, you will have a generic one, right? At what point would you raise the purchase
order?Forget that generic one, so you have a budget for that. So, when you plan the budget, right? Yes, you
will say I'm gonna use 2 million for inspection services. So, your line is in that at the stage level,
you said inspection services budget is 10 million, you know, 1 million. Now, you when you start to raise the
purchase order.Right, the projects purchase order will let you say which project, which discipline, and about
which stage it will let you do it, right? So, you would have said inspection service, so budget will be 1
million there, no actuals here, it will come back as you know.ABC Consultants, 0 budget, but you will expect
to have an actual here.When you roll it up, it will. So there is, so we have a budget. OK, first time budget.
Yes, 1 million. We will enter that 1 million here. Let's say KCA. OK, we may not know the name. So that
is why there will be one line which will have budget, no actuals.Like we have generic, and this is something
that when you think about, we have generic resources, right? We have like an architect, like that, we should
have categories, but you have interior design, blah, blah, blah, blah, right? So here it will be interior
design, generic. Well, I think at some point, the actual consultant will come, right? At some point, but then
that is through procurement, right? That is, no, no, that's what I'm saying. That's what
I'm seeing.Maybe in July, August, September, or like previous months in future, it might be somewhere, it
might be empty if it's not finalised, yeah, so that's what I'm also saying, so you have
generic, so you have one line generic which has a budget of 1 million, August, September, October, no
actuals.Now when the actual is going to come, it will be ABC consultant. He will not have that budget against
that line because he's taking the parent one. Then he will, this one will start to have the actuals.So,
when you roll up these two, you will see that the budget was so much, but the cost is what they were saying,
they were saying the cost is the same thing in the resource plan also, they're replacing the generic
resource with the actual assignment, an actual name, yeah, so something similar here, it can happen, no, they
can assign, so, yeah, we cannot from structure point, no, no, you cannot be a data component, no, but
you're right, whatever we are discussing, I like.What you said that it's within this, it's like
a parent. Yeah, the budget as a parent, you can have multiple, you know, you could even under architecture, I
could have two companies, right? Two companies, yeah, yeah, so that means I maintain the architectural
business, stage consultancy fee, or whichever one line.Second line, third line is all the actuals, I think,
yeah, exactly, but for them, I think, yeah, skeleton point of is fine. See here also, if you can think like
this thing, Annapurni, yeah, the detailed design is your one area, but under you are saying that my discipline
also goes under detailed design, in detailed design, there will be, and then there will be multiple
vendors.But on this data, I that is only the commitment, if you, hey, hey, you cannot this thing because
that's the budget is done at Fusion, your actuals are done at Fusion, so you just display it here, and
this, this at this side, the client cost also will get from Fusion only, actuals also will get from Fusion,
the screen is just like a view, yeah.OK, is it? It will be good, but no, but I don't want the PMC.to have
for me the way it should be is if I baseline something.OK, and correct me if I'm wrong, brace line
approved. OK, brace line, I think, some time, yeah, then the project time sheet people will enter, so I have,
yeah, so there's no contact, but that's not also this time sheet, and which time this one,
there's no, no, this is not this, this is this is.So, let's say I come back and I budget it for, you
know, solution design, right? Then I put one line, solution design, then I have Brad Saul, then I have another
company, they all, but my, that is my solution design will have one budget of, so when you roll it up, then
you will see budget, what are the actual spends? That's what you see, I, you know, it's very time
answering, so I'm always questioning that.Yes, once it is paid or raised, okay, so here it will be
Annapurni, he had a very good good question. Here, what you will be seeing is the committed, that is, where a
purchase order has been raised. It's important to see that, so in the reporting as well, we should have a
commitment schedule for, but you know...OK, not problem for you, but we need the commitment to be right; we
have the budget, we have the committed value, yeah, which is spent actually, yeah, and then actual risk that
is based on AP, whatever, invoice, yeah, pay, yeah, and then you have the remaining budget, yeah, now.The
question is, I don't want to waste time every month updating the forecast.I just want to see the
remaining.No, actually, I don't see. The main purpose of consultant the planning is if Emaar wants to
see, then they're going to pay the consultant. So that is a different issue I'm talking about.
That's a separate conversation. I'll come to that separately.So my issue is every time the real
headache for us or anybody is to update the, if your ETC is wrong, that means the forecast is completely
wrong.Yeah, so my question actually is a fusion question.How do I to manage that, you know, for me?Because I
know I have this as the budget, right? Your budget is fixed. If somebody forgets, like you're saying,
somebody forgets to enter the ETC, my forecast drastically drops. My margin shoots up. Yeah. How do we? So you
have your budget. So you have the spent so far.Spent right, then you have a commitment, then of course the
commitment is here, let's talk commitment and the purchase order, yeah, plus the invoices for which I
have already received the invoices, so, so you'll have a purchase order, you'll have the invoice
value, these two ends up as a commitment.So budget minus spent minus a commitment is your balance. It's A
calculation I want. That's what I want. OK, that's your balance. So any anywhere you go, you have a
budget. So far you. That's the forecast then. OK, so these are nu