mbers that the system knows.So balance
is something that you have out of the 10 million. Now we have a balance of 2 million. Now we have estimated to
a completion or is this thing is coming from your forecast as how much that this system cannot calculate it.Or
is there a formula that we can use? No, no, what we can do is, by default, it can take the remaining.OK,
default minimum has to be the remaining, which can be edited if needed, Karati. Then, then we can default the
this thing as forecast as the remaining balance. Yeah, then I'll come to what Thalha is saying. It has to
be time related.by forecast.So, now you have a manage Thalha, this is what I'm saying. This is the
integration with the procurement. I don't know how to select to create the procurement or something, or
is it completely managed? OK, or can I say, can I or the other option is we can assume it is time, you know,
time related based on your schedule, so when you're...We can, we can link it to the billing schedule. I
don't know. OK, I'll write it to you. So, right now, when you are seeing the forecast, that is your
out of your 10 million budget, your spend and your commitment is 8 million. So, you have a remaining 2
million, which you are now bought it into a forecast. Now, you want a forward-looking plan.How you are going
to spend this two minutes right now in this place, where this is primarily on the consultancy services right
here, you are putting a, you would actually put a budget.Not just one finite number, by month, by date, or
something, you if you're not doing then.I mean, we can.We should, then, then, so I'm trying to see,
where can I get a calculation data from? That's what yesterday we were trying to brainstorm with full
IOPS.Because, yeah, Consultants, that's why we left off actually yesterday. We have a billing schedule,
right? We need one is billing schedule. We find out the billing schedule. Now, where does it come from?
Procurement, right? You already have it in procurement for the remaining balance or whatever you call it, that
has to be manually done.So, the two, the two million, I would have to link it with the programme. This is
where I'm saying, how can we make it easy on ourselves? Can we link it to the programme?Say, you OK, I
give you the logic for that also. So, you have another one year, the project is going on for one year, your
forecast is now or the balance is 2 million. How do you spread? The question is, how do you spread this 2
million over this? For that, the easier way isI mean, I'm going at this stage. I have a stage start and
the end. Yes. Right. So this stage is getting over in the next two months. In, in, in, that's why we need
to start and they need to be linked like how we have for the disciplines.This will also have to be, yeah, the
I don't even need that, right? I'll give you why, so I have my stage and discipline now.I know my
disciplines under the stage. I have multiple discipline. Go back to your grand chart where you are saying
start to end, so I know when is the start and end for all the this thing across all the. Now this is at the
stage level, so by rolling it up, I know this stage is.Starting and ending, but imagine, in theory, this is a
discipline.Same thing, stage and discipline. Yeah, the budget would have a start and the end. No, the
beginning one. Try to explain that these would also have dates. OK, yeah, because I'm telling you in
reality, my interior designer will start later. Forget reality, I'm just saying in how it functions, but
dates are in the top.How you will create a schedule for this? You want to create a schedule you have?
That's my, that's where I was coming from there, because see, I can make it simple and I can say
just follow that, but in reality...This guy will come first, this guy will second, come second, consulting,
they have their own, but I think very theoretical, but that's exactly how it will function. An interior
design cannot start unless an architect freezes his planning. OK, so, but I know we can dumb it down by...But
I, why, you know, why do you need to? Why do you want to make an exception now? Default it can pick up default
if you put the top level like at any stage you say start and end automatically the disciplines will follow the
start end, unless you edit it change it.At least I'm giving the PM to edit because some great PM is like,
no, no, no, I want to show the exact thing because this functionality we can use to have one common dashboard
between, that's what we are coming to, right? David and us. So I can question why is there a delay in
this? Delaying means cost, right? I think.So, the comment is going back to the schedule, you will need this as
well, you will need for sub-consultants also, starting the dates. Cool, when again, does not for me, it will
come back to the fusion, how you are adding consultants there, how you are adding dates there, you will have
to add consultants there, yeah, you will have to add consultants there only, WBS, you have to add, how will I
know then which sub-consultants will be there, that will be there in.Yeah, I think it's just like a
generating thing. Here, here we pay it, I mean, not this, but someone else. No, no, no, no, so it's
mainly from a resource you can pay, not from sub-consultant. This consultant, which we are talking this as a
consultant, you cannot.Yeah, yeah, yeah, here you can. I have one question over there, right? So, first line
I'm saying, we know interiors is going to be from 1st of August to 31st of December. I have given that
take going back to, but that is for interior design consultancy.Right, I'm now going to have multiple
consultants come in. Now, the same logic when we again, I have a balance of 2 million and I have four months
for the interior design. It could be spent on the same consultants that I have, or it could be for a totally
new one that is coming up altogether. I know.Right. So at the most you will get is that consultancy service,
which is interior designing, you have 2 million to spend across three months or two months, which will be
approximately whichever based on the dates that you give. That is the... You're saying straight lining?
Straight lining.Yeah, because with the dates, that's the only thing that you can, that is base, yeah,
that's what I'm saying, so we can have an option to straight line it for the revenue forecast,
right? Revenue, ultimately, you will need revenue forecast for your, what, your SCM, ECM, only for it, EPM,
EPM, whatever model, no, but that would be, that's your revenue forecast, this is your...We want to come
to that, so you are trying to come to a spend forecast here, cash flow forecast, just tell me what I'm
saying is, by doing all of this, we are making sure that that is also answered, yeah, yeah, yeah, so, so,
what, at the end of the day, you are going to push data to Oracle, Oracle will push it to that EPM, correct?
So, I have...something, so the objective we have to try and get is we have something that is validated by the
project team, which ultimately sum up at the portfolio level. So it will help in your budgeting, it will help
in your forecasting, it will help in everything. So that's why I want the time-related cost. Coming back
to what Thalha was also asking for.That is the reason we want time related spend. Whether I agree with you, I
think straight lining Thalha is the simplest way, although it is not the right way or the practical way. This
is, I am giving you the only way that is available. But I would.Yeah, so what I want is for smaller projects,
I will say straight line it when there is, rather than having no information, some information is better. So
we'll say straight line it in, so we have an option, but we will, for most projects, we will want a
commitment schedule. In the commitment schedule, I will.At the, I will need to enter Thalha, if you can pay
some attention now, we will need to have a forecasting per stage for all projects, yeah, or not for all
projects, in some projects, at least at the minimum, we will have straight lining, yeah, by default.But we
will be expected to forecast for each stage, as we are doing now. I give you not just a minute, hold on, I
mean, yeah, and sorry to interview the best way, and for Rohit.I think, yeah, this is macro level as a as a
50,000 feet view design looks good, but I think what and there again still there whatever we are discussing is
like is more technical and we have no technical, and yes, we need to talk and all, so what I was thinking
maybe the 10%, 10 to 20% variations will be there.In this screen, understood. Yeah, actually, I am very clear,
because, but, but let's pull the data. I think most important thing, what are the problem now, because
they haven't seen Fusion and Blue Base, I think they have taken it, we have seen it, but nothing more
than that, but then what will go and detail the backend now, currently, just for your information, so we
are...Giving data to Oracle Fuser for a 10 projects. OK, yeah, OK, for 10 projects, data of WBS cost and
everything, OK, to test, OK, so they are uploading data, OK, sure, and now I think what the next day
we're gonna schedule a call with you for it to walk through, and at the time you can ask this question to
their team, once you will go through it.Then let's talk about directly API. Okay, tell them, "Hey,
give me your API. Okay, because they have already, okay, I'm sorry, I've been back to that meetings,
Vasan. Can I call you first?I, I, yeah, drawing right. The next actions item, the moment they will push the
upload the project data in a sandbox. Okay, what, so tomorrow they have to walk through the Oracle fusion,
action item number one, where they can also ask this. I have already informed Shu, Shu is coordinating, he
will send the meeting. That is the number one. Number 2, we have that.The float, cleaner spending expenses,
this wrap up and go.The second number most important item is that they have the moment they will import the 10
project data into the sandbox environment. Let's set up a meeting and ask them to expose the. And you, I
mean, I I hope now.Now, this is your first impression. OK, so whatever we can see, I hope he will give us a
real picture like this only. Ohh, but see, you are in, you are in point of view, I'm talking about, yeah.
OK, caveat, he is already there will be a certain changes here, and that's because this is just a
prototype, not the actual. I did not even see one.I did not even see what I, based on our document proposal
document, I have taken a list of APIs, this and I correct. No, my points, that's why I'm saying, I
mean, to to move faster in a project, the moment they will like cause API, you ready to do the correct API
inputs, and then we can see how this prototype looks like with the actual data. OK, and then maybe whatever we
are doing is brainstorming that how to do, what to do, how to do forecast.That we can discuss in actual data,
and maybe every time we can get the real input that, "Hey, I don't like these, I don't like
this update. Fine, that approach is also fine. Like, this is seventy-eighty percent okay. I really like the
interface. I mean, because, see, I don't want to leave up then, but those are in a group, 70, 80% okay.
I'm fine with this approach, because see what happens if...The concept itself is, whatever we are talking
about, forecast and all, until this expense is missing, by the way, yeah, this, yeah, this expense is start
going, so you won't say seventy-eighty percent OK, huh? You said you started off saying it's a
concept, no, no, what, what, what Jalpesh is trying to say is, yeah, we'll...Start integrating the API
directly in this, yeah, yeah, no, the look in three, yeah, so the content, the exactly in screen, you want to
change something, I'm OK, I, I like that, but the base, it's a very good concept, really good, very
useful, I think it's good, you know, so there's no problem there, but don't say it's now
seventy-eighty percent, I can't even touch anything, no, no, no, no, because you told me I can, no, no,
it will change.But what Jalpesh wants me to do is, yeah, take the APIs from start developing this, and we will
decide on the fly what instrument, whatever we are discussing, how to code, what to change, how to discipline
stage and all that, that real things which you can do or play here in your screen, if we have a data from
Oracle, and now this Oracle people I was speaking with Gautham that.Or it could be, anyway, they are importing
10 project data. Okay, so the moment they finish up, why, why can't they export their APIs? And I'm
asking Rohit to do the collection. So let me be very clear, yeah, that's the technicalities of it, of
course, but let me be very clear on what I'm working on. Very good, I mean, I think it's really
good.in terms of how you've done it so quickly, okay, and I like the idea of it and the thing. What now
we need to do is every screen we need to go and say, right, I don't want this, I don't want this, I
want this. Second, functionality of resources and planning has to come from Del Tech, Del Tech, okay, you have
to have all the functionalities.OK, so if you need to call Thalha and understand, or you go into yourself and
all that, content of the dashboard, yeah, content of the dashboard will be what we want. OK, this is just a
mock mock, and see here, he wanted to show you this, this, we were talking, OK, very small thing.Yeah, we can
expand. OK, see, this is, yeah, this is good enough. OK, but what we can do is maybe make a proper risk
register. OK, but this is good enough. Yeah, yeah, just click on, what happens if you click on, even the
address? Nothing, the same fields will come, Jalpesh. OK, so maybe here we may need more field or link with
certain.Yeah, status, or you know, stage, yeah, again, see, we cannot go an attack. I don't know what
goes as part of this, I can, if you want, I can give you a template, no, if you have to do different
integrations, integration, fusion has the open, standalone data, detail, cost impact, I don't know like
how that, maybe it's, it's, I'll give you an example.one where I'm saying, okay, I have a
risk potential impact for cost. Can that, yeah, this will be a standalone risk register that the PM will
input, okay? And it will go back to Fusion. Now, now that question, okay, okay, they can go on. Or not, I
don't know. We don't know. Yeah. So the already Fusion, we can, you know, tomorrow call, you can
see. You don't have, okay, for the answer, why?Oracle does not maintain it, this register. Yeah, it
doesn't, so instead of pushing it there, you can leave it here for the PM, because this is going to be
the only interface for PA. OK, but instead of like, but just like a record creation task management.They need
task management type me, because if there is an audit, yeah, Frederick keeps coming at me at with contingency,
when release contingency, then I can show him there's a risk registered on this project because
there's so much of risk, and he can also submit it to the auditors if he want, so there is a fund, there
is a purpose behind it, okay? That's why I'm asking for risk, yeah, otherwise, so I think what they
are think that if Oracle doesn't have a.Functionality to consume the research, then we can leave it here,
then the data will be here only, then it will not be pushed back over it, which is fine, it is fine if
that's what, and from here you can export the report, give it to Patrick, yeah, totally fine with it, as
long, and I was also telling him that, because I can see the...How quickly you've done something like
this? I can have the dashboard here, which, you know, our our project, this is not development, this is just
called, yeah, development, this is just a prototype, yeah, but if you have done a very good job, what is
expecting dashboard then, yeah, no, the the the next thing since I have.Leave is getting postponed by one
week. Same time next week, she will say, okay, show me the working model of it. I'll just tell you a
simple thing. Now, to build this graph, like a simple graph, I need to explore what AKS Fusion has, from where
this data can come, how many different AQIs I see is not good, okay, it's not good.No, no, no, this, I
will try, they will take that development piece is not, that's what I'm trying to say, yeah, OK, no,
but then you give me the, you do the one other way around now, Rohit, yeah, OK, you, hey, I want this API,
hey, I want this API, hey, I want this API, and then you give me your report, right? That's what I'm
saying, I need to give you the report, you need to.Bombard to the four AI team, with the help of Gautham. I
need this API. How can I find it? OK, I can do that once you want to go before then I can share. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, David. It will they are OK to get custom MPs right? Yeah, I don't have to combine 3-4 APIs
builders.They can create one API for me, we have to rule it, but look, when I say, when we say, we need to do
it, but when even when we are, when we say, OK, yeah, we do, we say for this API.Yeah, by example, ESE API to
local logic, click it, then I have already, I mean, in Oracle, they have a standard API which they can expose.
We will see what, what or how much we can, you are telling him about the report pack, send the entire
report.Pack that we sent through for IRS, provide it to them quickly. Your few inputs on this project as well,
like at a project level, this is a dashboard. I have a proper session on this, because I'll send you the
dashboard that we have for a project. Yes, okay, fine, perfect. Quickly, Oga, this I have, I have a.Give you
proper input. I like, like I said, if it's a look and see, it's fine. The dashboard looks like this
right now. Contents, I have to give you. This is the first meeting we have. I mean, I'm giving the
dashboard. We already discussed. Let's see, only now. It's just looking around and everything. I can
look around. I can tell you make.Yeah, happy, I want a table, not this. I can do all that, 100%, but I'm
very impressed with the overall structure and the overall.I think skeleton, skeleton, and the feel, you know,
and then I, the way I he's moving around, yes, it's very intuitive for a PM. It's critical. OK,
so, but now the exact content, like, functionality, content I'll give you, or we work together on it
based on your API, so it's all.It's all a mixed bag. I cannot see the contract summary. Yeah,
paragraph one.Contract value, no, no, no, no, the contract summary that will come from Oracle, no, no, no, no,
no, no, contract value, project, let's go to the other meeting, because HR is also, let's go to the
other meeting, please, I have to, we can go 5 minutes.You are in that other meeting focus.Five to six, yeah,
let's go, and you can send them all the reports. See you again, yeah, hopefully. Wait, enterprise,
that's it.Okay, just talk to him, then I'll go for the other one. Can you open, I think, your
e-mail? Maybe I'll just speak about it, and then we can wrap up this. Word document? Yes, yes. Okay,
since I have to go for the other project, if he had the invite, I would have...Send him, but I think in this
work you can do the reverse engineering, so like, you know, tomorrow's calls and you go through with this
next, and let's say, ask this question that, hey, where is this research, how you are maintaining it, how
you are calculating this forecast? I mean, or reverse answer to, I mean, to four hours.Yeah, no.Tick, so this
I think that they can echo the data, they can echo the APIs, and then, but this is nothing but it's
already calculated, but my point is that I don't want you to calculate here. Ohh, correct. What else you
are saying? The EAC and all of this calculation, I don't want you to create it.You are not gonna
calculate here, right? More difficult, that's what you are gonna say. What is your API to get this
number? Yeah, that's the component.That's what the components change a little.OK, cool. Yes, I can,
I can, I can, yeah, Ashok Deepak can drop off.Hello!

Ashok   Pillanam [1:50:55] Okay, yes, go ahead, okay.

Deepak Bhattad [1:50:56] All right.

Rohit  Bhattad [1:50:58] Okay, thank you.

Ashok   Pillanam [1:50:59] Thank you.

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